The Instrumental Rock thread

[greg]

The music, Greg! What did you think of the music!?

not my thing, but when they start doing the solos, one playing some chromatic stuff, the other playing blues stuff, it sounded pretty sweet 

i remembered the Scorpions song i was talking about- Coast to Coast.

I must confess -- those clips just didn't do it for me. 

I guess I'm just long over the whole shred-for-the-sake-of-shred thing; I much prefer well-rounded bands that happen to include some "balls" in the guitar department, so to speak. And I find that, like dtwilbanks, I generally now prefer rock music with vocals.

Greg, you should check out Umphrey's Mcgee -- they are a great, diverse band with two excellent guitarists, one of whom shreds like it's nobody's business. Check out their album "Anchor Drops" (though avoid the lame 4th track, "Bullhead City"). I imagine you'd really dig the tracks "Plunger" and "Wife Soup"; and probably most of their stuff, to be honest. And they're one of the best current bands I've seen live (like 10 times).

For the record, I still play guitar and currently work at a guitar shop... and I have a solid shred background, having seen G3 twice (once with Yngwie -- yuck -- and once with Petrucci), met Eric Johnson and Joe Satriani (both of whom I still greatly admire), and seen Dream Theater like 3 times (including the now famous show in Chicago in which they played Metallica's entire "Master of Puppets" album for the second set). So check out Umphrey's!

that's cool, i wish i could've gone to a G3 concert. I've tried twice, i think, with Yngwie in G3 but it was too expensive, my dad wanted to go, too. At least I've got one thing of Yngwie's- a pick my dad caught at a concert once. But he won't let me play with his pick, i might end up doing too many string scrapes and ruin it, after all. I have played with it before, though- feels good knowing in a way, you're connected to one of the guys who has inspired you so much 

can you post a clip or two of Umphrey's?

[greg]

look at this guy's speed picking technique:

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/O8Wbb8r8PUs

now if i can figure out how to do that, but with scales, i can rule the world 


right here it's featured on G4TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/QiqWOdWZIT8&watch_response
my favorite channel which i don't have anymore

[The Emperor]

King Crimson's instrumental songs are sweeeet!

[greg]

King Crimson's instrumental songs are sweeeet!

any good youtube videos?

[karlhenning]

any good youtube videos?

"Larks' Tongues in Aspic Part I," by the band which originally recorded it:

http://youtube.com/v/CrT2jEv_Yws

[The Emperor]

Classic one Karl 
A more recent one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ZRjsUzuHQ

[karlhenning]

"Larks' Tongues in Aspic Part II," by a later band:

http://youtube.com/v/SxhpfPU0t2Q

[karlhenning]

A more recent one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ZRjsUzuHQ

I hadn't seen that one before, thanks!

[greg]

"Larks' Tongues in Aspic Part I," by the band which originally recorded it:

http://youtube.com/v/CrT2jEv_Yws

i've never heard King Crimson before, but....... wow 
all the things i've thought of doing with rock band but much more, i wonder if they write out scores before playing the music?
are there any more bands out there like King Crimson...?

[dtwilbanks]

i've never heard King Crimson before, but....... wow 
all the things i've thought of doing with rock band but much more, i wonder if they write out scores before playing the music?
are there any more bands out there like King Crimson...?

Google "progressive rock".

[greg]

Google "progressive rock".

a lot of the bands mention aren't nearly as progressive as what i just heard. I mean, that progressive, more specifically

[dtwilbanks]

a lot of the bands mention aren't nearly as progressive as what i just heard. I mean, that progressive, more specifically

Look harder. 

[The Emperor]

Well King Crimson is indeed something unique heheh
I love Genesis as well, but it's more song oriented maybe, but you cant go wrong with the stuff with Peter Gabriel, but you want instrumentals right?
Yes or ELP would be other suggestions that i like, the 20 min songs, The Gates of Delerium by Yes or Supper's Ready By Genesis at least you should try, big epic progressive songs, but again, not instrumentals per se, although those songs have big instrumental parts obviously.

[longears]

Instrumental rock me like The Pretenders Space Invaders

[The Emperor]

Yes
The gates of Delirium

Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP4F4t6DlSg

Part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AI9_pWpNEs&mode=related&search=

Part3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFaCLjf02y8&mode=related&search=

Amazing song, enjoy.

[gomro]

i've never heard King Crimson before, but....... wow 
all the things i've thought of doing with rock band but much more, i wonder if they write out scores before playing the music?
are there any more bands out there like King Crimson...?

Plenty. For my money, though, the one band that is pushing the envelope as much as Crimson did in the 70s is a band called Canvas Solaris; you can hear their work right here:

http://www.myspace.com/canvassolaris

And here you can read my somewhat surrealistic review of their latest disc, Cortical Tectonics:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.listAll&friendID=14671423&startID=277063534&StartPostedDate=2007-06-16 17:55:00&next=1&page=2&Mytoken=93131012-4455-4BAD-86D3E34EAD3D98AE64905265

[greg]

Plenty. For my money, though, the one band that is pushing the envelope as much as Crimson did in the 70s is a band called Canvas Solaris; you can hear their work right here:

http://www.myspace.com/canvassolaris

And here you can read my somewhat surrealistic review of their latest disc, Cortical Tectonics:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.listAll&friendID=14671423&startID=277063534&StartPostedDate=2007-06-16 17:55:00&next=1&page=2&Mytoken=93131012-4455-4BAD-86D3E34EAD3D98AE64905265

wow, that's some wild stuff! i'm definetely adding them

[маразм1]

buckethead. 
first time i saw him during the 2000 vmas, I thought somebody was making fun of slash. 

he gives me a headache. I dont care how fast he shreds.  his sound is whiny, like a 1980's nintendo.  Lots of effects. 

I actually used to love that 1980s, almost synthesized guitar sound.  Now I love the raw, the gritty stuff. 

I use the cheapest distortion (the orange stompbox by boss), and in my opinion it sounds great.  My guitar even sounds overdriven if I turn down the volume knob on my guitar.  I hate that "metal" sound.  It sounds good but doesn't fill up the space.  Anybody knows what I mean?  When I play one chord, there're so many overtones and things that it sounds nice, rich and full.  But with that metal sound, sure it's heavy, but kind-of empty...

D

[greg]

buckethead. 
first time i saw him during the 2000 vmas, I thought somebody was making fun of slash. 

he gives me a headache. I dont care how fast he shreds.  his sound is whiny, like a 1980's nintendo.  Lots of effects. 

I actually used to love that 1980s, almost synthesized guitar sound.  Now I love the raw, the gritty stuff. 

I use the cheapest distortion (the orange stompbox by boss), and in my opinion it sounds great.  My guitar even sounds overdriven if I turn down the volume knob on my guitar.  I hate that "metal" sound.  It sounds good but doesn't fill up the space.  Anybody knows what I mean?  When I play one chord, there're so many overtones and things that it sounds nice, rich and full.  But with that metal sound, sure it's heavy, but kind-of empty...

D

i think i know what you mean.......
i like the sound of an amp with the gain on 10, the level anywhere. is that the metal sound you're talking about or not?

[маразм1]

i think i know what you mean.......
i like the sound of an amp with the gain on 10, the level anywhere. is that the metal sound you're talking about or not?

for metal, it MUST go to 11