Musical Taste and Ideological Predisposition

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Florestan

Quote from: Florestan on June 13, 2025, 09:18:00 AMPolitically, economically and culturally I'm a pragmatic liberal; socially, a moderate conservative.

Just to avoid any misunderstanding: "liberal" above should be taken in its European meaning, not the US one. In strictly European terms, I'm a centrist Christian Democrat. In strictly US terms, I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what I am. To the best of my knowledge, I might fit in a certain section of the Democratic Party as well as in a certain section of the Republican Party. One thing I know for sure, though: I strongly reject both MAGA and woke ideologies. 
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

ritter

So, the takeaway here, dear Florestan, is that holding sensible political views is not incompatible with having dubious musical taste, right?  :laugh:
 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

Florestan

Quote from: ritter on June 14, 2025, 11:38:23 AMSo, the takeaway here, dear Florestan, is that holding sensible political views is not incompatible with having dubious musical taste, right?  :laugh:

Or the other way around, depending on perspective.  :laugh:



"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Christo

Quote from: Florestan on June 13, 2025, 09:18:00 AMPolitically, economically and culturally I'm a pragmatic liberal; socially, a moderate conservative.

My Top 5 composers are Haydn, Mozart, Rossini, Schubert, Chopin. .

I doubt that the latter statement can be derived from the former or vice-versa.
From now on, I will consider these five composers to be extremely right-wing, nationalist, whatever. Because: no Low-Saxons among them. ;)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Florestan

Quote from: Christo on June 18, 2025, 10:33:13 AMFrom now on, I will consider these five composers to be extremely right-wing, nationalist, whatever. Because: no Low-Saxons among them. ;)

To paraphrase Saul Bellow: show me the Mozart and the Rossini of the Low Saxons and I'll gladly listen to their music.  ;D
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Christo

Quote from: Florestan on June 19, 2025, 02:49:14 AMTo paraphrase Saul Bellow: show me the Mozart and the Rossini of the Low Saxons and I'll gladly listen to their music.  ;D
You already do, for the better part of the life. Technically, all composers born & bred above the Benrather Linie are Low Saxons, from Telemaqnn to Brahms. I guess you heard of them. :)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Florestan

Quote from: Christo on June 19, 2025, 02:59:06 AMYou already do, for the better part of the life. Technically, all composers born & bred above the Benrather Linie are Low Saxons, from Telemaqnn to Brahms. I guess you heard of them. :)

Ha ha, I saw it coming. :D
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "