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Elgarian Redux

Quote from: AnotherSpin on July 19, 2025, 08:40:42 PMAnd yes, talking about people present in the third person is rather gauche, no matter how you see the world or your self.


But how can it be? In your world model, for one so-called individual (driven by conditioning), to consider the actions of another so-called individual (also driven by conditioning) as 'gauche' is meaningless.

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Elgarian Redux on July 19, 2025, 11:24:32 PMBut how can it be? In your world model, for one so-called individual (driven by conditioning), to consider the actions of another so-called individual (also driven by conditioning) as 'gauche' is meaningless.

Please read my previous post again.

Elgarian Redux

Quote from: AnotherSpin on July 19, 2025, 11:26:25 PMPlease read my previous post again.

Because you asked me to, I did. The difficulty is that many sentences seem self-refuting. For example:

Quote from: AnotherSpin on July 19, 2025, 08:40:42 PMSome people don't realize the difference between their role in the play and who they really are, but I do.

In your model, 'people' don't realise anything. They follow their conditioning. Even if they think they've broken free of it, how can they know they are not deluding themselves? Of course you can assert that you've broken free, but how do you persuade yourself you're not stuck in a self-conditioning loop?

Anyway, good luck with it. I'm off to enjoy the smell of coffee, the feel of a summer breeze, and revel in the sheer quiddity of the things around me.




AnotherSpin

Quote from: Elgarian Redux on July 19, 2025, 11:50:30 PMBecause you asked me to, I did. The difficulty is that many sentences seem self-refuting. For example:

In your model, 'people' don't realise anything. They follow their conditioning. Even if they think they've broken free of it, how can they know they are not deluding themselves? Of course you can assert that you've broken free, but how do you persuade yourself you're not stuck in a self-conditioning loop?

Anyway, good luck with it. I'm off to enjoy the smell of coffee, the feel of a summer breeze, and revel in the sheer quiddity of the things around me.





No problem, you win. Have a good day and a wonderful walk.