The saddest music in a major key

Started by Brian, December 09, 2025, 05:31:22 AM

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Brian

Just catching up the Mozart thread and found this:

Quote from: Madiel on August 03, 2025, 01:50:06 PMThe bit that really hit me, given what I'd just been saying on the WAYLT thread, was how Eine kleine Nachtmusik was used absolutely perfectly as the background to a party, only for Hazelwood to completely ruin the effect by linking it to the death of Leopold Mozart and insisting it contained the saddest music anyone had ever written in a major key.

That pundit's absurd opinion made me laugh. But then I thought: hey, what is the saddest music in a major key? Florestan immediately nominated Schubert. My mind actually went to Vaughan Williams, particularly the Fifth Symphony. I bet Brahms has some good candidates.

Jo498

"He was despised" from Messiah

"Des Baches Wiegenlied" from Die schöne Müllerin

instrumental:

- Mozart: slow movement of the last piano concerto K 595

- lots of Schubert, e.g. the beginning of the last piano sonata or the trio section of the 3rd movement of the string quintet

- Mahler: first and last movement of the 9th symphony.
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Mandryka

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Chopin op 10/3
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(poco) Sforzando

The Dead March from Handel's Saul.

Siegfried's dying monologue from Gotterdammerung.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

DavidW


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Quote from: Brian on December 09, 2025, 05:31:22 AMFlorestan immediately nominated Schubert.

I'm going to have to concur here.

I'm getting shivers just thinking about the String Quintet in C major.

Symphonic Addict

Ravel's Pavane pour une infante défunte for starters.
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The new erato

Schuberts quintet in C major. No contest for me.

DaveF

Elgar 2 (in E flat major) comes to mind, although the saddest bits - the slow movement, the central section of the first - are actually in minor keys.  What about the slow movement of the violin concerto? - pure B flat major, pure sorrow.
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