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Re: Elgar's Hillside
« Reply #3300 on: May 23, 2020, 03:11:08 AM »
Tonight, should you wish:

On Saturday at 8PM Chowder Time, WCRB rebroadcasts a BSO concert including the Elgar Cello Concertohttps://www.classicalwcrb.org/#stream/0
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« Reply #3301 on: May 23, 2020, 02:01:09 PM »
Tonight, should you wish:


The cellist is Truls Mørk
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« Reply #3302 on: May 23, 2020, 04:05:56 PM »
Fellow Elgarians: What do you consider to be the darkest recording of the 2nd Symphony? One that really brings out the work’s darker undercurrents? I’m looking for a recording that delivers utmost mysteriousness in the second (“ghost”) theme of the first movement, tragic nobility in the slow movement, ferocity in the scherzo (the climax needs to be shattering!!), and nostalgic summing-up in the finale. BTW I’m not very interested in “historical” recordings, no matter the merits of the interpretation.
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« Reply #3303 on: May 23, 2020, 04:12:14 PM »
Fellow Elgarians: What do you consider to be the darkest recording of the 2nd Symphony? One that really brings out the work’s darker undercurrents? I’m looking for a recording that delivers utmost mysteriousness in the second (“ghost”) theme of the first movement, tragic nobility in the slow movement, ferocity in the scherzo (the climax needs to be shattering!!), and nostalgic summing-up in the finale. BTW I’m not very interested in “historical” recordings, no matter the merits of the interpretation.

For the qualities in which you speak of, I’d say Andrew Davis’ Philharmonia live recording. This one:

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Re: Elgar's Hillside
« Reply #3304 on: May 23, 2020, 04:15:56 PM »
For the qualities in which you speak of, I’d say Andrew Davis’ Philharmonia live recording. This one:



Thanks John, I’ll check it out! Just today I was listening to Edward Gardner’s recent recording with the BBCSO on Chandos which I enjoyed very much - it’s immaculately played and recorded - but perhaps a bit too “smooth” and not always bringing out some of the more visceral aspects of the score.
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« Reply #3305 on: May 23, 2020, 04:20:22 PM »
Thanks John, I’ll check it out! Just today I was listening to Edward Gardner’s recent recording with the BBCSO on Chandos which I enjoyed very much - it’s immaculately played and recorded - but perhaps a bit too “smooth” and not always bringing out some of the more visceral aspects of the score.

You’re welcome, Kyle. I personally like my Elgar more on the rougher side. Andrew Davis and Mark Elder are usually my go-to Elgarians, but I do like Boult a lot as well.
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« Reply #3306 on: Today at 03:32:35 AM »
Thanks John, I’ll check it out! Just today I was listening to Edward Gardner’s recent recording with the BBCSO on Chandos which I enjoyed very much - it’s immaculately played and recorded - but perhaps a bit too “smooth” and not always bringing out some of the more visceral aspects of the score.

My feeling with most of Gardner's recordings is that the ear is seduced by the sheer quality of the recording and playing but strip that away and they are unexceptional interpretations.  Nothing to offend by any means but little to engross....

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« Reply #3307 on: Today at 04:30:11 AM »
Fellow Elgarians: What do you consider to be the darkest recording of the 2nd Symphony?

With the proviso that we all tend to hear things differently, I suggest giving Sinopoli a try. I think it quite dark, slow and brooding.

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« Reply #3308 on: Today at 04:53:45 AM »
With the proviso that we all tend to hear things differently, I suggest giving Sinopoli a try. I think it quite dark, slow and brooding.

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+1, was about to suggest Sinopoli for brooding.

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« Reply #3309 on: Today at 07:59:39 AM »
I can't participate much because I am not good at this. I just can't tell what is dark or light or whatever. I am not someone who remembers 1000 parameters of a given performance in case some asks something. I just like or I don't like and most of the time I don't even know why! Sometimes is because I am in the mood. So it's me, not the recording itself.

It's always been like this. I am different. For me cover art of the CD can be very important because it helps me with the mood. Bad cover art = bad mood = no enjoyment.  ;D

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« Reply #3310 on: Today at 08:55:41 AM »
I have hardly anything to say.

Then the best decision would be to not say anything at all.
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