Elgar's Hillside

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Karl Henning

Just a spoonful of sugar, Mike . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

knight66

Were it only one spoonful!

Mike
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Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: 71 dB on June 20, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
I have the "dark brown" cover.

Quote from: Elgarian on June 20, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
I have the dark brown and gold cover too.

Quote from: karlhenning on June 20, 2012, 11:01:57 AM
I have the Union-Jack-detail cover.

Quote from: knight66 on June 20, 2012, 10:37:41 PM
I have the King in his crown, which I think is the original CD cover.

Since we're all confessing: mine's the Union Jack.

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mc ukrneal

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 21, 2012, 07:55:48 AM
Since we're all confessing: mine's the Union Jack.

Sarge
Apparently, this might make a fun poll. Who knew?!? :)  (And I have the Union Jack cover too, though I thought I would be getting the brown one based on the picture at the site I bought it)
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Elgarian

It seems that the green cover must be exceedingly rare!!

knight66

The disc itself is much less rare than I had supposed. If they keep issuing it in different covers, eventually everyone will have a copy, or in some, curiously, two.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

snyprrr

ok, straight up, what is the fuss about Elgar? Did he invent a minor ninth or something? seriously, I'm not mocking,... just tell me,... which movement is it? Which is 'The One'? I gather, too, that only certain conductors get how to 'do' the thing.

I know, I'm sorry, it sounds crass. I mean, I love the Big Melody i9n the Cello Concerto. And I get the Piano Quintet,... I even have a disc of Elgar fun things on Chandos that I haven't listened to in 15 years.

If I were an Elgar junkie, and I needed a fix BADDD, what single arch of music will I go for? Besides Finzi! :-*

Elgarian

#1508
Quote from: snyprrr on June 21, 2012, 07:54:22 PM
I love the Big Melody in the Cello Concerto. And I get the Piano Quintet,...

With those two pieces you may have answered your own question. To those I might add (perhaps in this order, but they're all quintessential Elgar):

The Spirit of England (See all the comments above, but when you've read 'em, get the Cahill/Gibson version and thrill to the freedom of choosing the cover you most like.)
Enigma Variations
Violin sonata
Violin concerto
1st symphony

I know you asked for the quick fix, but apart from the ubiquitous 'Nimrod' from Enigma, I'm not sure it can be done in bits very well.

Elgarian

Quote from: knight66 on June 20, 2012, 10:37:41 PM
I would describe Cahill as having vibrancy, not a vibrato......I dislike a vibrato in the main.

Yes that sounds right Mike, and thanks for the clarification - I too struggle with a prominent vibrato as a rule (we've had similar discussions before, haven't we?), but I've never thought of it as a problem here.

71 dB

Quote from: snyprrr on June 21, 2012, 07:54:22 PM
ok, straight up, what is the fuss about Elgar? Did he invent a minor ninth or something?
Elgar invented and patented his own soup.

Quote from: snyprrr on June 21, 2012, 07:54:22 PMIf I were an Elgar junkie, and I needed a fix BADDD, what single arch of music will I go for? Besides Finzi! :-*

Quick fix in 5 minutes: Elegy, Op. 58

Fix in 60 minutes: Symphony No. 2, Op. 63

Full fix (2 hours): The Apostless, Op. 49
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Karl Henning

Quote from: 71 dB on June 22, 2012, 05:49:53 AM
Quick fix in 5 minutes: Elegy, Op. 58

A lovely piece, I agree; but I am doubtful that that is the sort of Elgar piece to sell snypsss.

I should happily learn that it us otherwise, of course.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

mc ukrneal

Quote from: karlhenning on June 22, 2012, 05:58:21 AM
A lovely piece, I agree; but I am doubtful that that is the sort of Elgar piece to sell snypsss.

I should happily learn that it us otherwise, of course.

I just listened to that today by chance. Wonderful piece.  I always like the Cockaigne Overture when I want a short Elgar piece.
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Luke

#1513
Quote from: Elgarian on June 21, 2012, 10:55:08 AM
It seems that the green cover must be exceedingly rare!!

I have the green one!! And the news that I own something that is exceedingly rare helps somewhat, because, although the disc itself is stunning (and renewed thanks for Alan for pointing it in our/my direction), I always thought the green cover was both plain and ugly. But if it's rare, well...that makes a difference.   ;D  ;D

Karl Henning

Oh, 'tis a rare pain, that's sartain . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Luke


Karl Henning

Hah! But I did enjoy the typo so . . . was not apparently a typo, save that I thought you omitted "a pain."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Some colors, truly, are pert near visual pain.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

DavidRoss

Quote from: 71 dB on June 22, 2012, 05:49:53 AM
Elgar invented and patented his own soup.
;D ( :o )
Bravo!

Quote from: karlhenning on June 22, 2012, 07:14:46 AM
Some colors, truly, are pert near visual pain.
Not to mention plaids.
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Luke

If we're spotting typos, I quite like this one....

Quote from: 71 dB on June 22, 2012, 05:49:53 AM
Full fix (2 hours): The Apostless, Op. 49

Those poor folk, scraping through life without even a single Apost...