Stockhausen's Spaceship

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Pessoa

Is there literature on that? I didn´t know. I´d like to read some, anything you find particularly interesting?

Karl Henning

Wow! Music for every season! He is so utterly awesome! (I'm missing how any of that has to do with Advent/Christmas, at all, at all, but let that slide.)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pessoa

And, had he lived longer, minutes and seconds would also have been covered.

Karl Henning

I'd like to say again just how supremely awesome Stockhousen is!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pessoa

I only know Dienstag fully and the electronic parts of some of the other days, so I can´t give an opinion.

Pessoa

Quote from: James on December 03, 2013, 03:22:14 PM
STOCKHAUSEN WEBSITE NEWS!

December 5, 2013 marks the sixth anniversary of Karlheinz Stockhausen's passing into eternity.


Maybe.

Pessoa

Two petitions:

1. I like Hymnen a lot.  I wonder what other works by Stockhausen, even if not so massive. would fall into the same category or be similar to any extent.

2. I would like to listen to opinions about Ceylon, Prozession, Mixture and Kurzwellen.

Pessoa


Oclock

From Kathinka Pasveer's Facebook:

Today we received the message that Michael Vetter has passed away on December 7th.

Fortunately, we have just finished a fantastic recording of EXPO for 3 which will be released soon:

CD 104 of the Stockhausen Complete Edition was recorded at Sound Studio N, Cologne, with Kathinka Pasveer, recording director and mixing and Günther Kasper, sound engineer.
Natascha Nikreprelevic, Michael Vetter and F.X.Randomiz realised three different versions of EXPO on October 12th 2013 without interruption or later corrections. The second and third version were choosen for the present edition and were mixed on October 13th, 20th and December 1st 2013.

AndyD.

May I please have recording reccomendations? I am almost completely new to Stockhausen, and am primarily interested in his serial compositions.
http://andydigelsomina.blogspot.com/

My rockin' Metal wife:


Mirror Image

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Quote from: AndyD. on December 21, 2013, 06:24:04 AM
May I please have recording reccomendations? I am almost completely new to Stockhausen, and am primarily interested in his serial compositions.

If you're interested in mid to late-20th Century music, then my suggestion is listen to a real composer like Schnittke or Hartmann. You'll dig their music, Andy. For a metalhead like you, these two composers are almost self-recommending. 8)

Some musical examples of both composers:

Schnittke -

http://www.youtube.com/v/utC06VN3XIA

Hartmann -

http://www.youtube.com/v/N5AmqY5OSX8

AndyD.

Quote from: Mirror Image on December 21, 2013, 06:40:27 AM
If you're interested in mid to late-20th Century music, then my suggestion is listen to a real composer like Schnittke or Hartmann. You'll dig their music, Andy. For a metalhead like you, these two composers are almost self-recommending. 8)

Some musical examples of both composers:

Schnittke -

http://www.youtube.com/v/utC06VN3XIA

Hartmann -

http://www.youtube.com/v/N5AmqY5OSX8

Hi MI! I do like Schnittke, especially his Viola Concerto, but now I'm interested in Hartmann, thank you!

Quote from: James on December 21, 2013, 06:51:49 AM
Here is a good starter kit ..

Klavierstücke
Gruppen
Kontakte
Zeitmasze
Hymnen
Momente
Stimmung
Mantra
Music for flute, piccolo flute, alto flute
Michaels Reise
Invisible Choirs
Music for clarinet, bass clarinet, basset-horn
Luzifers Tanz
Oktophonie
Music for trumpet, piccolo trumpet, flugelhorn
Electronic Music with Sound Scenes of Friday
Welt-parlament
Lichter-Wasser
Strahlen
Music for saxophone
Freude
Treue
Cosmic Pulses
Tierkreis


This is perfect, James, thank you!
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North Star

Quote from: AndyD. on December 21, 2013, 07:08:54 AM
Hi MI! I do like Schnittke, especially his Viola Concerto, but now I'm interested in Hartmann, thank you!

Keeping it Off-topic  8)

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Mirror Image

Quote from: AndyD. on December 21, 2013, 07:08:54 AM
Hi MI! I do like Schnittke, especially his Viola Concerto, but now I'm interested in Hartmann, thank you!

Excellent, Andy. Do you know Schnittke's Requiem or Faust Cantata? Karlo (North Star) suggested outstanding recordings for you to check out in regards to Hartmann. I think he'll be right up your alley. 8)

AndyD.

Quote from: Mirror Image on December 22, 2013, 07:50:20 AM
Excellent, Andy. Do you know Schnittke's Requiem or Faust Cantata? Karlo (North Star) suggested outstanding recordings for you to check out in regards to Hartmann. I think he'll be right up your alley. 8)

Hi MI! Getting right into Hartmann lately. I also liked Stockhausen's Invisible Choir.

I've got the Requiem on my short to-listen list, thanks to everyone!
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snyprrr

I'm curious- if KHS's stuff is all, let's say, 'religious', how can 'normal' people be expected to perform in his Operas? I mean, I saw the 'friars' pic above and wondered, Are these real friars, or just actors. Knowing that actors are sooooo impure, how can they be used for his music? Wouldn't you need real initiates?

Would Stockhausen benefit from real 'adepts' or psychics, or whatever, performing instead of just mere muuusicians??

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

petrarch

Quote from: snyprrr on December 31, 2013, 07:58:16 AM
I'm curious- if KHS's stuff is all, let's say, 'religious', how can 'normal' people be expected to perform in his Operas? I mean, I saw the 'friars' pic above and wondered, Are these real friars, or just actors. Knowing that actors are sooooo impure, how can they be used for his music? Wouldn't you need real initiates?

Would Stockhausen benefit from real 'adepts' or psychics, or whatever, performing instead of just mere muuusicians??

Have you listened to Luzifers-Abschied? Quite worthwhile and it presents Stockhausen at his darkest (it's the setting where all those 'friars' are integral to the work).

The answer to the question about adepts and psychics vs. mere musicians is obvious from his considerations about the performance of his intuitive pieces.
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kishnevi

Quote from: James on January 18, 2014, 07:03:48 AM
Teatro alla Scala - March 24th 2014

Maurizio Pollini
piano


Programme 
Ludwig van Beethoven
Sonata in F sharp major op. 78
Sonatina in G major op. 79
Sonata in E flat major op. 81a ("Les Adieux")
Sonata in E min. op. 90

Karlheinz Stockhausen
Klavierstück X


[...]

I've also heard Pollini is planning on recording Stockhausen's Klavierstücke for Deutsche Grammophon.

(fingers crossed)


At least a couple of Pollini's performances of some of the Klavierstucke can be found on Youtube.

San Antone

Stockhausen: "Zeitmasze"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUZkz8myaEM

Interesting work from 1955 in which Stockhausen experimented with "tempo counterpoint", i.e. having the instruments play independent of a common tempo telling some players to play their parts " as fast as possible" or "as slow as possible" while also precisely noting other parts.  This kind of writing also influenced some of the Klavierstücke.  He  heard David Tudor play some keyboard works of John Cage when the pair toured Europe ion 1954 and Stockhausen was impressed with Tudor's using various non-traditional techniques (e.g. Klavierstücke X uses clusters similar to the ones he heard Tudor perform).  He dedicated the keyboard works to Tudor.