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Brian

I've lately been keeping track of websites that use a "bot check" software before allowing you to continue to the main website. Cook Political Report, eBay, Roger Ebert, my car service shop, Scotrail, The Scots Magazine, Discogs, Berkshire Record Outlet, the WNBA.

However, two of these (Scotrail and the WNBA) decided that I AM a bot and blocked me. In both cases, their pages failed to load properly, so I refreshed them, but refreshing a page is apparently "bot behavior" so this caused them to block me.

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Panem et Artificialis Intelligentia

Harry

Quote from: Brian on May 22, 2026, 04:54:34 AMI've lately been keeping track of websites that use a "bot check" software before allowing you to continue to the main website. Cook Political Report, eBay, Roger Ebert, my car service shop, Scotrail, The Scots Magazine, Discogs, Berkshire Record Outlet, the WNBA.

However, two of these (Scotrail and the WNBA) decided that I AM a bot and blocked me. In both cases, their pages failed to load properly, so I refreshed them, but refreshing a page is apparently "bot behavior" so this caused them to block me.

Cloudflare Brian is the road to salvation, and it can be integrated into the GMG software, it keeps Bots away, and certainly does not block you. I own a pretty large IT company, as an investment, and the techs say Cloudflare. It has proven itself. But I said this before many times, but to no avail.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Brian

Actually Scotrail uses Cloudflare and blocked me.  :(

Edit: I suspect Rob's proposed solution of blocking Russia would take care of a LOT of the problem.

Harry

Quote from: Brian on May 22, 2026, 05:18:00 AMActually Scotrail uses Cloudflare and blocked me.  :(

Then it is probably installed in the wrong way. Properly integrated it works fine. My company has about 500 clients using it, and there are no problems at all.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Harry

Quote from: Brian on May 22, 2026, 05:18:00 AMActually Scotrail uses Cloudflare and blocked me.  :(

Edit: I suspect Rob's proposed solution of blocking Russia would take care of a LOT of the problem.

Yes that is true.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Justice Roberts

Quote from: Dungeon Master on May 20, 2026, 09:19:14 PMThank you sincerely for those of you who have recently subscribed or donated funds to help support GMG. All funds go into a dedicated PayPal account that I use to help defray the costs of running the server and the website. GMG is a labour of love, and will never be a pay site, but I do appreciate those who can help. And those of you who are not in a position to help financially, but support the site by being valuable members and excellent humans, thank you to you too.

cheers
Rob


Rob, I am former- Dry Brett Kavanaugh. As for subscriptions, I sent the message below to a moderator and you several times. Still I (and the moderator) haven't heard from you.



Hello, I cannot login the account above. Maybe because my password has no capital letter or symbols? I am in the middle of annual subscription.
Thank you.

Florestan

Thanks, Rob, for your good work and dedication. You da man!
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Kalevala

Quote from: Brian on May 22, 2026, 05:18:00 AMActually Scotrail uses Cloudflare and blocked me.  :(

Edit: I suspect Rob's proposed solution of blocking Russia would take care of a LOT of the problem.
Interesting, so far I've never had that problem.  I've noticed though, that I'm getting notices from more websites to verify that I'm a human; I click on the box and am given access to it/them.

K

JBS

Quote from: Harry on May 22, 2026, 05:14:11 AMCloudflare Brian is the road to salvation, and it can be integrated into the GMG software, it keeps Bots away, and certainly does not block you. I own a pretty large IT company, as an investment, and the techs say Cloudflare. It has proven itself. But I said this before many times, but to no avail.

Scotrail uses Cloudfare (I just checked*), so it's obviously not problem-free.

The WNBA site didn't try to "verify that I am a human". Maybe Cloudfare carried over from the Scotrail site?

*Hopefully none of us need to use the Inverness route because it's currently disrupted.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Spotted Horses

Quote from: Harry on May 22, 2026, 05:14:11 AMCloudflare Brian is the road to salvation, and it can be integrated into the GMG software, it keeps Bots away, and certainly does not block you. I own a pretty large IT company, as an investment, and the techs say Cloudflare. It has proven itself. But I said this before many times, but to no avail.

I went to the supermarket and wanted to purchase an item on weekly special. The store required me to clip a digital coupon, which required me to log into their web site, which had to be approved by Cloudflare. Cloudflare site hung up, and by the time it went through I was at another supermarket purchasing the same item.
Formerly Scarpia (Scarps), Baron Scarpia, Ghost of Baron Scarpia, Varner, Ratliff, Parsifal, perhaps others.

Harry

I thought I could contribute to this question of Bots, but of course I am burned down to the ground.
forget I ever mentioned Cloudflare, if you have a better solution feel free to use it!
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

JBS

Quote from: Harry on May 22, 2026, 10:32:16 AMI thought I could contribute to this question of Bots, but of course I am burned down to the ground.
forget I ever mentioned Cloudflare, if you have a better solution feel free to use it!

We don't. I think the real takeaway is that there's no solution to the Bot Infestations that's 100% problem free.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Brian

The solution is to return to 1996 and restart the entire internet.  ::)

Philo

Quote from: Brian on May 22, 2026, 11:23:33 AMThe solution is to return to 1996 and restart the entire internet.  ::)

I think you mean 1995:

"As soon as a coin in the coffer rings, the soul from purgatory springs."

Todd

Quote from: Philo on May 22, 2026, 11:37:46 AMI think you mean 1995:



1993.



I have been online for thirty-three years now.  Ugh.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Panem et Artificialis Intelligentia

Elgarian Redux

When there have been problems of some sort, or when the site goes down, I get a sharp reminder of how important GMG is to me. Many thanks, Rob.

Philo

Quote from: Todd on May 22, 2026, 12:12:00 PM1993.



I have been online for thirty-three years now.  Ugh.

"As soon as a coin in the coffer rings, the soul from purgatory springs."

Kalevala

Quote from: JBS on May 22, 2026, 08:42:24 AM*Hopefully none of us need to use the Inverness route because it's currently disrupted.
Go through the Highlands?  I could deal with that.  8)

K

Atriod

Quote from: Justice Roberts on May 22, 2026, 07:04:05 AMRob, I am former- Dry Brett Kavanaugh. As for subscriptions, I sent the message below to a moderator and you several times. Still I (and the moderator) haven't heard from you.



Hello, I cannot login the account above. Maybe because my password has no capital letter or symbols? I am in the middle of annual subscription.
Thank you.


This happened with me when GMG had that ~6 month-ish long down time around 10-15 years ago. Same thing has now happened to me at Audio Circle (which uses the same software as GMG) when I tried to login to my account I haven't used in a few years. There are bunch of threads about it in their help forum.