Best program to rip music?

Started by Mozart, December 03, 2007, 08:07:00 PM

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Mozart

Hi, I want to rip a ton of cds at 320 kp/s vbr, and I am looking for the best program to do it. I would like the program to accurately name the files, and if there is a program that also can add a picture of the cd that would be awesome too.

Mozart

Well I am using JetAudio...I thought of getting EAC but might as well use what I already have. It didnt have mp3 as an option (weird no?) so I am ripping lossless...

Bonehelm

EAC is ownage, it lets you rip at 1411kbps which is 100% uncompressed original CD bitrate

Mozart

Quote from: Bonehelm on December 03, 2007, 09:38:13 PM
EAC is ownage, it lets you rip at 1411kbps which is 100% uncompressed original CD bitrate

Yes but I have no need for 1411 kb/s music. I'm quite happy with 320 vbr so 600 kb/s ape is quite satisfactory for me. Except my stupid ipod doesn't like the format.

mahlertitan

Quote from: Bonehelm on December 03, 2007, 09:38:13 PM
EAC is ownage, it lets you rip at 1411kbps which is 100% uncompressed original CD bitrate

those only takes up TREMENDOUS amounts of harddrive space, not practical at all. I think for digital storage, 192kbps + Mp3 is more than sufficient.

Mozart

Quote from: GBJGZW on December 03, 2007, 10:35:10 PM
those only takes up TREMENDOUS amounts of harddrive space, not practical at all. I think for digital storage, 192kbps + Mp3 is more than sufficient.

Its ok for puff daddy, but I find that sometimes its not enough for classical. Since I primarily play music from my computer, I would like it to be the best quality possible will still not taking up ridiculous amounts of space. 320 kp/s is the best rate for quality (which I know if important to you) and for not taking up to much space. 1411 kp/s seems pointless to me, I can't really tell the difference between 320 and lossless why would 1411 be useful?

Tapio Dmitriyevich

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Quote from: E..L..I..A..S.. =) on December 03, 2007, 08:07:00 PMHi, I want to rip a ton of cds at 320 kp/s vbr, and I am looking for the best program to do it. I would like the program to accurately name the files, and if there is a program that also can add a picture of the cd that would be awesome too.
As a ripper, EAC is still state of the art because of it's error coorection. EAC calls whatever encoder you want. As for mp3, you choose the latest lame.exe binary (from rarewares.org). Lame is often seen as state of the art mp3 encoder. Especially because it's still being actively developed.
Good manual in german language: Setting up EAC/Lame: http://www.audiohq.de/index.php?showtopic=47
Another one, in english: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_and_Lame

As for classical, there is good reason to encode lossless (flac, tak or wavpack): Classical music compresses very good (I often get 400-600 kbps). And you are safe for the future, as you keep the original. You're more free to quickly encode your lossless file to a lossy format later. It's about flexibility.

@GBJGZW: "64 kbyte of ram are enough"? :) No, there's not tremendous amounts of hd space necessary: Keep in mind average hard disks today are around 750 GByte. Lots of people already have >1 TB.

drogulus

Quote from: E..L..I..A..S.. =) on December 03, 2007, 10:58:58 PM
Its ok for puff daddy, but I find that sometimes its not enough for classical. Since I primarily play music from my computer, I would like it to be the best quality possible will still not taking up ridiculous amounts of space. 320 kp/s is the best rate for quality (which I know if important to you) and for not taking up to much space. 1411 kp/s seems pointless to me, I can't really tell the difference between 320 and lossless why would 1411 be useful?

     I archive to FLAC and use AAC at ~180-220 kbps. I honestly can't tell the difference between 320 and 192 VBR. I know that tests that have been reported on at Hydrogenaudio Forums show you can go much lower than that, but I'm too paranoid to do it.



     This chart gives you an idea of the size/quality tradeoff, though I have a hard time understanding quality that you can't hear. Everything from about 7 on up is probably transparent with actual music (as opposed to test tones or aberrant musical samples which flummox the encoder).
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Gurn Blanston

I use the V-0 setting. Of course, the average bitrate varies from track to track, but I would say the VBR average is around 215 or so. There is one higher setting (this is using WinAMP now) which is not on the V scale, but another one they have on a list box which offers "normal" "voice" "high" and "very high". I use "high" because it rips about 9X, while very high rips at like 2-3X. :o  I just couldn't spend a half hour at a time ripping a disk. But it gave an average bitrate of around 240 or more.

The other day I decided to rip in flac just for the hell of it. Damn it was fast! Let me rip at about 30X, totally lossless, pretty reasonable file size. I think this will be my choice for lossless archiving. But other than WinAMP, nothing else I have plays it (off the computer, I mean), so a source for making mp3's and burn to DVD for storage, that's about it. :-\

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Mozart

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I get so lazy to rip! I have 10 cds left...Most of them have 2-3 disks...It's still a mountain!

Worst of all my cd drive gets stuck all the time. I click the thing like 50 times and it finally opens...and then it works fine until I restart my computer. WTF man can't it just F***ing work for once?

drogulus



      I had a problem ripping Virgil Fox's Laserlight disc (famous organ disc) using EAC. The first 2 notes from the Toccata & Fugue in D minor were cut off! I went into all the options for drive settings (offset, track gaps, etc.) but nothing worked. Apparently this CD is defective even on regular CD players. I finally fixed it another way but EAC couldn't do it.

      I don't think EAC rips more accurately than other programs, it just reports on the accuracy of the rips it produces. So it's a peace-of-mind kind of thing. I like the program, but I only use it occasionally.
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KevinP

Quote from: E..L..I..A..S.. =) on December 05, 2007, 06:43:28 PM
Worst of all my cd drive gets stuck all the time. I click the thing like 50 times and it finally opens.

Don't know the paper clip trick, huh?


Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Bonehelm on December 03, 2007, 09:38:13 PM
EAC is ownage, it lets you rip at 1411kbps which is 100% uncompressed original CD bitrate

You mean it lets you reap in wave format? Amazing!

Not to rip (har har) on EAC, which is probably the best program around for this kind of thing, but come on.