Favourite period in music history?

[Bogey]

Top three, but not limited to:

Baroque
Classical
Romantic

[Symphonien]

Romantic, Modern, Contemporary.

I was going to pick classical, but realised that by your definition of Romantic as 1800-1900, I still get all of Beethoven's symphonies! The 1st was completed and premiered in 1800. Difficult to give up Baroque, but I figured I only really like two composers: Bach and Scarlatti, as compared to all the composers from 1800 onwards. I haven't heard anything pre-baroque.

[Bogey]

Romantic, Modern, Contemporary.

I was going to pick classical, but realised that by your definition of Romantic as 1800-1900, I still get all of Beethoven's symphonies! The 1st was completed and premiered in 1800. Difficult to give up Baroque, but I figured I only really like two composers: Bach and Scarlatti, as compared to all the composers from 1800 onwards. I haven't heard anything pre-baroque.

Well, I would be happy to trade you a third of my baroque for a third of your modern.

[Symphonien]

Well, I would be happy to trade you a third of my baroque for a third of your modern.

Deal!

[71 dB]

I shall have to define my own period: the transition from Classico-Romantic to Romanti-Classical, which is to say, the  50 years from 1780 to 1830.

Isn't the period simply middle+late classical?

[rubio]

Big surprise. Baroque, classical, romantic.

[lukeottevanger]

I shall have to define my own period: the transition from Classico-Romantic to Romanti-Classical, which is to say, the  50 years from 1780 to 1830.

Isn't the period simply middle+late classical?

The Gurnian? It will mean no more discussion about 'Beethoven, Classic or Romantic?', thankfully. LvB is revealed to simply be a late Gurnian, as I for one always suspected.

A pretty precise period this, and, it has to be said, one more packed with interest and quality than most.

[The Emperor]

No idea.

You know...that Dmitri something,,,

[George]

Top three, but not limited to:

Baroque
Classical
Romantic

Baroque

Classic

Romantic

A man after my own heart.

[The Emperor]

For me it's Romantic/Modern/Contemporary

[Gurn Blanston]

Isn't the period simply middle+late classical?


The Gurnian? It will mean no more discussion about 'Beethoven, Classic or Romantic?', thankfully. LvB is revealed to simply be a late Gurnian, as I for one always suspected.

A pretty precise period this, and, it has to be said, one more packed with interest and quality than most.

The æons of the Gurnian are relatively well-marked in the record:

The Earliest Gurnian consists in Mozart's 10 years in Vienna (1781 to 1791). Most people who don't do the in-depth exploration of Mozart are content to say that this was his greatest period. They may be correct.

The Early Middle Gurnian is highlighted by Haydn's London journeys and subsequent symphonies, late quartets and oratorios.

the Late Middle Gurnian's high point is, of course, Heroic Beethoven.

The Late Gurnian's hallmark's are Late Beethoven and all of Schubert.

The underlying strata are built of the music of Carl Stamitz, Weber, Spohr, Hummel, Jan Dussek, Onslow, Fesca, Wilms, Verhulst, Mèhul, Viotti, Rossini, early Mendelssohn and a few dozen others who contributed to one of the most interesting periods in music history. So much going on, such nice, interesting music. Thanks, Luke for associating it with me

[71 dB]

The underlying strata are built of the music of Carl Stamitz, Weber, Spohr, Hummel, Jan Dussek, Onslow, Fesca, Wilms, Verhulst, Mèhul, Viotti, Rossini, early Mendelssohn and a few dozen others who contributed to one of the most interesting periods in music history.

No Dittersdorf?
No Vanhal?

[rach]

Top three, but not limited to:

Baroque
Classical
Romantic

Initially I only voted for one: classical.  Since I have 3 votes, my other 2 go to baroque and romatic in that order.

[Gurn Blanston]

No Dittersdorf?
No Vanhal?

Oh yes, they are part of the "few dozen others" that also include Pichl, Benda, Salieri, Cimarosa, Danzi, Devienne, Reicha, Gyrowetz, &c, &c, &c. One can't have the top of a building without a proper foundation, can one?

[The Emperor]

oops double post, anyway we are winning!
Modern all the way! not...it's romantic...good enough for me.

[SonicMan46]

Oh yes, they are part of the "few dozen others" that also include Pichl, Benda, Salieri, Cimarosa, Danzi, Devienne, Reicha, Gyrowetz, &c, &c, &c. One can't have the top of a building without a proper foundation, can one?

This Gurnian Period remains the one that fascinates me the most - often the emphasis seems to be on just 3 or 4 composers, but there were so many excellent musicians/composers working at those times for courts, royalty, churches, et al that the number of individuals writing music & the compositions written is astounding (of course, many of these are likely lost, many composers forgotten, and a minority of this music now recorded).

Thus, I was curious about just 'how many' of these composers are still known enough to be even mentioned - so, I reviewed a long list of composers on the Naxos website & also looked at my own computerized database list - below is a compilation of composers from this 'glorious era' (in my mind at least) - my main criterion was to include composers who were likely writing works at the time of JS Bach's death (1750) into the 1820s (of course, many of these composers were born before 1750 or lived after 1830). 

Below is the list 'found' - about 75 or so composers - probably skipped a couple of dozen or more because I had not heard of them or in reviewing the bios, their output was non-instrumental or minimal.  There are certainly other composers mentioned in previous posts in this thread that could be added; and, there are likely many more composers 'unknown' or 'little recorded' that could be added.

I guess my main point in doing this excercise is that there was an amazing number of muscian/composers during this 80 year period making some just glorious music, some of which still left to be discovered & recorded.  Note - next to these composers, I've placed * (one * means that I have one disc of this composer, while 2* indicates that I have 2 or more CDs - thus, there is plenty of recorded music in existence already of these guys!).

Many of these composers have been discussed (and even have separate threads in the 'old' forum), but certainly further comments & suggestions of recordings are welcomed.   

Abel, Carl Friedrich (1723 - 1787)*
Albrechtsberger, Johann Georg (1736 - 1809)
Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel (1714 - 1788)**
Bach, Johann Christian (1735 - 1782)**
Beck, Franz Ignaz (1734-1809)*
Beethoven, Ludwig van (1770-1827)**
Benda, Frans & Georg (1709-86; 1722-95)
Blavet, Michel (1700-1768)*
Boccherini, Luigi (1743-1805)**
Boyce, William (1711-1779)**
Cambini, Giuseppe Maria (1746 - 1825)
Cannabich, Christian (1731 - 1798)
Cartellieri, Antonio (1772- 1807)**
Carulli, Ferdinando (1770 - 1841)*
Cherubini, Luigi (1760 - 1842)*
Cimarosa, Domenico (1749 - 1801)
Clementi, Muzio (1752 - 1832)**
Cramer, Johann Baptist (1771 - 1858)*
Crusell, Bernhard Henrik (1775 - 1838)**
Danzi, Franz (1763 - 1826)**
Dittersdorf, Carl Ditters von (1739 - 1799)**
Dussek, Jan Ladislav (1760 - 1812)**
Field, John (1782- 1837)**
Galuppi, Baldassare (1706 - 1785)*
Gambaro, Vincent (1785- 1824)*
Giuliani, Mauro (1781- 2829)**
Gluck, Christoph Willibald (1714 - 1787)
Gossec, Francois-Joseph (1734 - 1829)*
Hasse, Johann (1699- 1783)*
Haydn, Franz Joseph (1732 - 1809)**
Haydn, Michael (1737 - 1806)*
Hoffmann, Leopold (1738 - 1793)**
Hoffmeister, Franz Anton (1754 - 1812)*
Holzbauer, Ignaz (1711- 1783)*
Hummel, Johann (1778- 1837)**
Kleinknecht, Jakob (1722- 1794)*
Kraus, Joseph Martin (1756 - 1792)**
Kreutzer, Conradin (1780 - 1849)**
Kreutzer, Rodolphe (1766- 1831)*
Krommer, Franz (1759 - 1831)**
Kuhlau, Friedrich (1786 - 1832)**
Leclair, Jean-Marie (1697- 1764)**
Locatelli, Pietro (1695- 1764)**
Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus (1756 - 1791)**
Myslivecek, Josef (1737- 1781)*
Onslow, Georges (1785- 1853)**
Ordonez, Karl von (1734 - 1786)
Paisiello, Giovanni (1740 - 1816)
Pichl, Vaclav (1741- 1805)*
Pleyel, Ignaz Joseph (1757 - 1831)**
Quantz, Johann Joachim (1697 - 1773) **
Reicha, Anton (1770 - 1836)**
Ries, Ferdinand (1784 - 1838)**
Rosetti, Antonio (1750- 1792)**
Ryba, Jakub Jan (1765 - 1815)
Salieri, Antonio (1750 - 1825)
Sammartini, Giovanni Battista (1700 - 1775)
Schubert, Franz (1797 - 1828)**
Soler, Antonio (1729 - 1783)*
Sor, Fernando (1778 - 1839)*
Sperger, Johannes Matthias (1750 - 1812)
Spohr, Louis (1784 - 1859)**
Stamitz, Carl (1745 - 1801)**
Stamitz, Johann (1717 - 1757)
Tartini, Giuseppe (1692 - 1770)**
Vanhal, Johann Baptist (1739 - 1813)**
Viotti, Giovanni Battista (1755 - 1824)
Wagenseil, Georg Christoph (1715 - 1777)
Weber, Carl Maria von (1786 - 1826)**
Wolf, Ernst Wilhelm (1735 - 1792)*
Wranitzky, Anton (1761 - 1820)

[Gurn Blanston]

Great post, Sonic, and it reminded me of many of the names that I overlooked listing. I can only mention that you need to correct a major oversight and grab up a disk or two of Viotti. Dynamic have your best choice with the whole set, the one Naxos disk is surprisingly lifeless for such lively music!

[BachQ]

below is a compilation of composers from this 'glorious era' (in my mind at least)


Abel, Carl Friedrich (1723 - 1787)*
Albrechtsberger, Johann Georg (1736 - 1809)
Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel (1714 - 1788)**
Bach, Johann Christian (1735 - 1782)**
Beck, Franz Ignaz (1734-1809)*
Beethoven, Ludwig van (1770-1827)**
Benda, Frans & Georg (1709-86; 1722-95)
Blavet, Michel (1700-1768)*
Boccherini, Luigi (1743-1805)**
Boyce, William (1711-1779)**
Cambini, Giuseppe Maria (1746 - 1825)
Cannabich, Christian (1731 - 1798)
Cartellieri, Antonio (1772- 1807)**
Carulli, Ferdinando (1770 - 1841)*
Cherubini, Luigi (1760 - 1842)*
Cimarosa, Domenico (1749 - 1801)
Clementi, Muzio (1752 - 1832)**
Cramer, Johann Baptist (1771 - 1858)*
Crusell, Bernhard Henrik (1775 - 1838)**
Danzi, Franz (1763 - 1826)**
Dittersdorf, Carl Ditters von (1739 - 1799)**
Dussek, Jan Ladislav (1760 - 1812)**
Field, John (1782- 1837)**
Galuppi, Baldassare (1706 - 1785)*
Gambaro, Vincent (1785- 1824)*
Giuliani, Mauro (1781- 2829)**
Gluck, Christoph Willibald (1714 - 1787)
Gossec, Francois-Joseph (1734 - 1829)*
Hasse, Johann (1699- 1783)*
Haydn, Franz Joseph (1732 - 1809)**
Haydn, Michael (1737 - 1806)*
Hoffmann, Leopold (1738 - 1793)**
Hoffmeister, Franz Anton (1754 - 1812)*
Holzbauer, Ignaz (1711- 1783)*
Hummel, Johann (1778- 1837)**
Kleinknecht, Jakob (1722- 1794)*
Kraus, Joseph Martin (1756 - 1792)**
Kreutzer, Conradin (1780 - 1849)**
Kreutzer, Rodolphe (1766- 1831)*
Krommer, Franz (1759 - 1831)**
Kuhlau, Friedrich (1786 - 1832)**
Leclair, Jean-Marie (1697- 1764)**
Locatelli, Pietro (1695- 1764)**
Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus (1756 - 1791)**
Myslivecek, Josef (1737- 1781)*
Onslow, Georges (1785- 1853)**
Ordonez, Karl von (1734 - 1786)
Paisiello, Giovanni (1740 - 1816)
Pichl, Vaclav (1741- 1805)*
Pleyel, Ignaz Joseph (1757 - 1831)**
Quantz, Johann Joachim (1697 - 1773) **
Reicha, Anton (1770 - 1836)**
Ries, Ferdinand (1784 - 1838)**
Rosetti, Antonio (1750- 1792)**
Ryba, Jakub Jan (1765 - 1815)
Salieri, Antonio (1750 - 1825)
Sammartini, Giovanni Battista (1700 - 1775)
Schubert, Franz (1797 - 1828)**
Soler, Antonio (1729 - 1783)*
Sor, Fernando (1778 - 1839)*
Sperger, Johannes Matthias (1750 - 1812)
Spohr, Louis (1784 - 1859)**
Stamitz, Carl (1745 - 1801)**
Stamitz, Johann (1717 - 1757)
Tartini, Giuseppe (1692 - 1770)**
Vanhal, Johann Baptist (1739 - 1813)**
Viotti, Giovanni Battista (1755 - 1824)
Wagenseil, Georg Christoph (1715 - 1777)
Weber, Carl Maria von (1786 - 1826)**
Wolf, Ernst Wilhelm (1735 - 1792)*
Wranitzky, Anton (1761 - 1820)

SonicMan: Thanks for completing "Phase 1" of the mission (alphabetical listing of composer names comprising the Gurnian Era); now all you need to do is complete "Phase 2" (create new threads for each composer) . . . . . . So get moving!   

[SonicMan46]

Great post, Sonic, and it reminded me of many of the names that I overlooked listing. I can only mention that you need to correct a major oversight and grab up a disk or two of Viotti. Dynamic have your best choice with the whole set, the one Naxos disk is surprisingly lifeless for such lively music!

Gurn -thanks, was planning to add Viotti to my collection a while back, but must have gotten side-tracked!    At any rate, Gurn started a thread on Viotti in the old forum - Take a Look; of course, there are many other recordings of these listed composers in my previous post that I would love to explore.  So, to all - please look at the list and give advice as to what you may already own (or ask questions if you might be curious about these composers - there is some outstanding music to be appreciated beyond the presumed GREATS of the era) - 

[Hollywood]

Give me Baroque, Classical and Romantic anytime!