Kamran Ince

gomro · September 29, 2007, 02:05:50 AM

I just purchased a Naxos disc with Kamran Ince's 3rd and 4th symphonies, "Siege of Vienna" and "Sardis", and I'm very impressed. His music reminds me of Martinu... Honegger... Shostakovich... Ruggles... but "reminds" is as far as the comparison goes, because despite some similarities, Ince has a style completely his own.
Anyone else familiar with this composer, for good or ill?

Harry · September 29, 2007, 02:32:46 AM

Quote from: gomro on September 29, 2007, 02:05:50 AM
I just purchased a Naxos disc with Kamran Ince's 3rd and 4th symphonies, "Siege of Vienna" and "Sardis", and I'm very impressed. His music reminds me of Martinu... Honegger... Shostakovich... Ruggles... but "reminds" is as far as the comparison goes, because despite some similarities, Ince has a style completely his own.
Anyone else familiar with this composer, for good or ill?

Yep, bought that same disc 6 months ago, and since then I am hooked. His music is original, and as you say a style of his own.
Here is his website. enjoy.

http://www.kamranince.com/eng.htm

Dundonnell · October 03, 2007, 05:03:12 PM

Yes, I too was rather impressed by the works on the Naxos CD-accessible music but in a modern idiom.

It seems a little odd that the disc was issued in the Naxos 21st Century Classics series since only one of the three works was actually written in the 21st Century but I have thought for some time now that Naxos ought to rethink their policy on series. The Ince could perfectly well have been issued in the American Classics series since Ince was born and teaches in the USA.

(Incidentally, Naxos does seem to issue an awful lot of discs in the American Classics series by composers I have never heard of and-even at their cheap price-buying becomes a bit of a lottery. Come on Naxos-finish the William Schuman, Roy Harris, David Diamond, Paul Creston series!)

violinconcerto · October 08, 2007, 10:30:48 PM

There is a recording of Kamran Inces very nice violin concerto called "In white"!
I don't know any other work by him, but this particular piece sounds churchly, like Tavener but not that depressed.

jowcol · June 01, 2011, 05:37:04 AM

I've been really enjoying the "Siege of Constantinople" disc by Ince, both the title track (his second symphony) and the Arches are a really enjoyable mix of post-minimalism and polystylism (sp?). It's like a multi-cultural John Adams with a bit more of a willingness to get dissonant. I really like how effective the way he blends eastern and archaic elements where it doesn't sound labored or forced.

I'll need to dig deeper-- checking out the bank account....

Popov · June 15, 2011, 01:44:52 PM

I'm curious about the Galatasaray Symphony, any thoughts?

lescamil · June 15, 2011, 02:21:23 PM

There is a CD on Argo called Fall of Constantinople (named after his second symphony) which I quite like, especially the piano concerto Remembering Lycia. It has a romantic attitude, but with a language that reminds me somewhat of what the original poster mentioned, and I'll add the Turkish composer Ahmed Adnan Saygun to that list. Kamran Ince is of Turkish extraction and it is reflected in his music.

jowcol · July 19, 2011, 01:49:11 AM

Quote from: Popov on June 15, 2011, 01:44:52 PM
I'm curious about the Galatasaray Symphony, any thoughts?

I've given that a couple listens on the Naxos disc-- I like it, but not as much as the 2nd. However, some of the other tracks on that disc are wonderful.

vandermolen · July 19, 2011, 02:17:08 AM

Oddly enough I was thinking of starting a thread on this composer, entitling it 'Fall of Constantinople' - I think that Symphony No 2 is great - like a mixture of American minimalists (Glass?) meets the whirling dervishes and the Poledouris score for 'Conan the Barbarian' (a great score by the way) + lots of use of bagpipe like traditional turkish instruments - a hoot, I loved it. coincidentally the CD with 'Siege of Vienna' arrived today. The two works I recommend are Symphony No 2 ;Fall of Constantinople' and the Concerto for Orchestra (both on the same Naxos CD). I was delighted to see he's written a piece of music linked with the Turkish football team Galatasaray.
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Dundonnell · July 19, 2011, 07:20:27 AM

Quote from: vandermolen on July 19, 2011, 02:17:08 AM
Oddly enough I was thinking of starting a thread on this composer, entitling it 'Fall of Constantinople' - I think that Symphony No 2 is great - like a mixture of American minimalists (Glass?) meets the whirling dervishes and the Poledouris score for 'Conan the Barbarian' (a great score by the way) + lots of use of bagpipe like traditional turkish instruments - a hoot, I loved it. coincidentally the CD with 'Siege of Vienna' arrived today. The two works I recommend are Symphony No 2 ;Fall of Constantinople' and the Concerto for Orchestra (both on the same Naxos CD). I was delighted to see he's written a piece of music linked with the Turkish football team Galatasaray.
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To seek to avoid making himself deeply unpopular in Istanbul Ince really now requires to add a Fenerbahce Symphony

vandermolen · July 19, 2011, 07:34:17 AM

Quote from: Dundonnell on July 19, 2011, 07:20:27 AM
To seek to avoid making himself deeply unpopular in Istanbul Ince really now requires to add a Fenerbahce Symphony

Hehe - an excellent point

jowcol · July 19, 2011, 01:32:07 PM

Quote from: vandermolen on July 19, 2011, 02:17:08 AM
Oddly enough I was thinking of starting a thread on this composer, entitling it 'Fall of Constantinople' - I think that Symphony No 2 is great - like a mixture of American minimalists (Glass?) meets the whirling dervishes and the Poledouris score for 'Conan the Barbarian' (a great score by the way) + lots of use of bagpipe like traditional turkish instruments - a hoot, I loved it. coincidentally the CD with 'Siege of Vienna' arrived today. The two works I recommend are Symphony No 2 ;Fall of Constantinople' and the Concerto for Orchestra (both on the same Naxos CD). I was delighted to see he's written a piece of music linked with the Turkish football team Galatasaray.
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The other version of the Fall of Constantinople has a lovely work called Arches which I'm very fond of....

vandermolen · July 19, 2011, 02:32:12 PM

Quote from: jowcol on July 19, 2011, 01:32:07 PM
The other version of the Fall of Constantinople has a lovely work called Arches which I'm very fond of....

Thank you John - I've noticed it on Amazon. I trust that the piece is both valedictory and hopelessly defiant

jowcol · July 19, 2011, 05:54:02 PM

Quote from: vandermolen on July 19, 2011, 02:32:12 PM
Thank you John - I've noticed it on Amazon. I trust that the piece is both valedictory and hopelessly defiant

Actually, it isn't-- more moody and impressionistic , but still probably something you'd enjoy a lot.

vandermolen · July 20, 2011, 01:21:00 AM

Quote from: jowcol on July 19, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
Actually, it isn't-- more moody and impressionistic , but still probably something you'd enjoy a lot.

Many thanks John.

foxandpeng · October 06, 2022, 06:55:45 AM

Listening to Kamran Ince's Symphony 2, 'Fall of Constantinople' as a palate cleanser on Argo with the Albany SO. What a great piece of music. I am often well disposed to symphonies that start with a bang, and this is no exception. Very listenable, indeed. Lots to like, and I endorse the enthusiasm of the previous comments in the thread 🙂👍

I even like the coupled work for Piano and Orchestra... Piano Concerto?, Remembering Lycia, which due to my aversion to such things is a bit of a surprise. Second PC or piano work in recent days, after very much liking the Valeriy Antonyuk PC; strange times.

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