Bach Cello Suites

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karlhenning


GKC

Anybody heard this one?  I am considering buying it, but would like to know folks' opinion:

http://sa-cd.net/showtitle/4230

And is it P.I.P.?

Thanks

Bulldog

Quote from: GKC on May 21, 2010, 08:24:42 AM
Anybody heard this one?  I am considering buying it, but would like to know folks' opinion:

http://sa-cd.net/showtitle/4230

And is it P.I.P.?

Thanks

Defintely not a period instrument performance - rather romantic/big-boned in conception and highly individualistic.  However, I do like the interpretations that I've heard on the Naxos Music Library.  Sound is up-front.  Although I generally prefer this music on baroque cello, Lipkind is a keeper.  The negative consideration is that it's a very pricey 3 disc set.

If I remember correctly, Jens reviewed this set either for MusicWeb International or on the WETA site.  Perhaps he will chime in with his assessment.

jlaurson


DavidRoss

FWIW, my taste jives with Jens:  Fournier, Wispelwey, Queyras...though I like Tortelier, too, and have enjoyed Beschi nearly as much...and must admit to Ma's indulgent second recording as a guilty pleasure!  Haven't heard Lipkind, and the price is a deterrent, but if both Jens and Don like him then he's doubtless worth checking out.  ;D
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jlaurson

Quote from: Bulldog on May 21, 2010, 08:53:54 AM
Defintely not a period instrument performance - rather romantic/big-boned in conception and highly individualistic.  However, I do like the interpretations that I've heard on the Naxos Music Library.  Sound is up-front.  Although I generally prefer this music on baroque cello, Lipkind is a keeper.  The negative consideration is that it's a very pricey 3 disc set.

If I remember correctly, Jens reviewed this set either for MusicWeb International or on the WETA site.  Perhaps he will chime in with his assessment.

There are snippets all over; Fanfare, MWeb, ionarts, WETA... I think this summarizes best: http://www.weta.org/fmblog/?p=260

SonicMan46

Quote from: DavidRoss on May 26, 2010, 09:44:10 AM
FWIW, my taste jives with Jens:  Fournier, Wispelwey, Queyras...though I like Tortelier, too, and have enjoyed Beschi nearly as much...and must admit to Ma's indulgent second recording as a guilty pleasure!  Haven't heard Lipkind, and the price is a deterrent, but if both Jens and Don like him then he's doubtless worth checking out.  ;D

Well, Lipkind appears to be a MAJOR contender in this crowded arena - but at $50 on the Amazon Marketplace for 3 CDs -  :o  Will put on my 'wish list' and hope for a price reduction!   ;D

Bogey

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jlaurson

Quote from: Bogey on June 05, 2010, 08:18:05 AM
Featured on NPR:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127479657

Oh Gawd, yes... CD Pick of the Week at my (NPR affiliated) station, too.
So we decided to add a slightly critical comment on those recordings... because being critical is not the job of NPR (or anything on the air):

N E W   R E L E A S E S:  C D S
CD Pick of the Week & Recent Releases
http://www.weta.org/fmblog/?p=2028
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Another Telarc artist in that line is Zuill Bailey,
a cellist of 40 years who is marketed as a young
Fabio of the cello (if with less flamboyance than
organist "Cameron"). Every glamour-shot—and
there are plenty to be found in the notes of his
recent releases and on his website—tries hard
to suggest, or underline, the irresistible masculine
charisma of his chiseled chin.

Scarpia

Quote from: Bogey on June 05, 2010, 08:18:05 AM
Featured on NPR:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127479657

How can I go on reading this when it starts with such an inane claim, that this recording is "unique" because it was performed on a cello made during Bach's lifetime.  Don't those dimwits know that a significant fraction of instruments used by soloists were made in Bach's time or earlier?

Brahmsian

Quote from: premont on January 27, 2010, 12:14:40 PM

Maurice Gendron (Philips) give us noble and balanced interpretations, which already are a little oldfashioned but still impressive.

Hello, can anyone else comment if they have the Gendron set on Philips?  It's available at my local Bricks & Mortar store for $9.99

In particular, how is the sound?  And, how is the Sarabande of the 5th Cello Suite, my own personal litmus test for the Cello Suites.  ;D :)

jlaurson

Quote from: Scarpia on June 05, 2010, 08:24:09 AM
How can I go on reading this when it starts with such an inane claim, that this recording is "unique" because it was performed on a cello made during Bach's lifetime.  Don't those dimwits know that a significant fraction of instruments used by soloists were made in Bach's time or earlier?

That's why you should read my off-color review, not the standard NPR fare.  ;D

premont

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Quote from: ChamberNut on October 08, 2010, 08:31:54 AM
Hello, can anyone else comment if they have the Gendron set on Philips?  It's available at my local Bricks & Mortar store for $9.99

In particular, how is the sound?  And, how is the Sarabande of the 5th Cello Suite, my own personal litmus test for the Cello Suites.  ;D :)

Gendron´s playing is very clear and eloquent, expressive but not romantic  like e.g. Tortellier.
Neither is Gendron interpretation "regal" like Fournier´s on his Archiv version, but much more human.You may at first listening find his Sarabande of the 5th suite a bit fast, but I find it refreshing. The sound is excellent. All in all I tend to prefer Gendron to Fournier within a close margin.
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Brahmsian

Quote from: premont on October 09, 2010, 06:25:52 AM


Gendron´s playing is very clear and eloquent, expressive but not romantic  like e.g. Tortellier.
Neither is Gendron "regal" like Fournier on his Archiv version, but much more human.You may at first listening find his Sarabande of the 5th suite a bit fast, but I find it refreshing. The sound is excellent. All in all I tend to prefer Gendron to Fournier within a close margin.

Thanks!  I was eager, and went ahead and bought the Gendron.  The price was right.  2-fer $9.99

Marc

Quote from: ChamberNut on October 09, 2010, 06:49:20 AM
Thanks!  I was eager, and went ahead and bought the Gendron.  The price was right.  2-fer $9.99
Good man!
(I agree with Premont's description of Gendron's Bach, although I dunno Fournier & Tortelier.)

Scarpia

Quote from: premont on October 09, 2010, 06:25:52 AMGendron´s playing is very clear and eloquent, expressive but not romantic  like e.g. Tortellier.
Neither is Gendron "regal" like Fournier on his Archiv version, but much more human.You may at first listening find his Sarabande of the 5th suite a bit fast, but I find it refreshing. The sound is excellent. All in all I tend to prefer Gendron to Fournier within a close margin.

Again, Grendron is more "human" than Fournier?  I've seen photos of Fournier and I didn't notice any gills, or signs of non-human DNA.   ;D

premont

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Quote from: Scarpia on October 09, 2010, 02:56:58 PM
Again, Grendron is more "human" than Fournier?  I've seen photos of Fournier and I didn't notice any gills, or signs of non-human DNA.   ;D

Of course not, I am referring to his playing and not to his physique.

But thanks so much for your kind correction.
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jlaurson

Quote from: premont on October 09, 2010, 03:02:25 PM
Of course not, I am referring to his playing and not to his physique.

And I believe Scarpia is making a point about errant adjectives, not special confusion.

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: jlaurson on October 09, 2010, 03:05:12 PM
And I believe Scarpia is making a point about errant adjectives, not special confusion.

No, Jens, Scarpia was making a joke and we –Bachians- are deadly serious guys.  ;)

premont

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Quote from: jlaurson on October 09, 2010, 03:05:12 PM
And I believe Scarpia is making a point about errant adjectives, not special confusion.

He certainly did, but his "point" was besides my point and irrelevant for that matter..

And may I remind you of the fact, that English isn´t my first tongue.

Yes, I am deadly serious.
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