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George

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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2007, 02:33:12 PM »
Quote from: Mark on October 05, 2007, 02:23:37 PM
Baroque Cello? Isn't that the one with just five strings? If so, doesn't only the Fifth Cello Suite call for such an instrument?

I could be being completely ignorant here, so please, spare me a flaying. ;D

He plays a period instrument. Beyond that, I know nothing. You won't get any flaying from me, buddy.  :)
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Mark

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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2007, 02:35:55 PM »
Quote from: George on October 05, 2007, 02:33:12 PM
He plays a period instrument. Beyond that, I know nothing. You won't get any flaying from me, buddy.  :)

Just checked ... and I'm wrong. It's alleged that the Sixth Suite was the one that Bach said should be played on a five-string cello. Whether that's a Baroque Cello, I know not. ???
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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2007, 03:18:52 PM »


  Mark, this is the only recording that I have of these fine works and I just love these performances:

 

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Mark

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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2007, 03:51:10 PM »
Quote from: marvinbrown on October 05, 2007, 03:18:52 PM

  Mark, this is the only recording that I have of these fine works and I just love these performances:

 

  marvin

I have this, too, along with Kliegel's Naxos set, the Starker I've praised already and Meneses on Avie. I think Isserlis might be an interesting one to try out. Rudin's approach is interesting, a little dark in places for me, and perhaps he eases off the gas at times when I feel I want more oomph. :) Starker (and his pupil, Kliegel) give a little more of themselves, it seems, as though adding that extra ounce of expression. I rather like this, especially in the First and Second Suites.
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dtwilbanks

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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2007, 03:53:00 PM »
Not my go-to music, but I think I prefer Casals to Rostropovich and Starker, though Starker ain't bad.
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Mark

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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2007, 03:53:45 PM »
Not that I'm in a rush to get it, but does anyone have Starker on CD?
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dtwilbanks

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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2007, 03:54:39 PM »
Quote from: Mark on October 05, 2007, 03:53:45 PM
Not that I'm in a rush to get it, but does anyone have Starker on CD?

Used to.  ;D
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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2007, 03:56:19 PM »
Quote from: dtw on October 05, 2007, 03:54:39 PM
Used to.  ;D

RCA? Just seen that available on Amazon.
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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2007, 04:26:47 PM »
For some quality Cello Suites banter, check this out...






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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2007, 07:34:02 PM »
Jian Wang on DG.
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Mark

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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2007, 12:23:58 AM »
Quote from: donwyn on October 05, 2007, 04:26:47 PM
For some quality Cello Suites banter, check this out...

Excellent! Thanks for this. :)
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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2007, 12:31:08 AM »
Quote from: Mark on October 06, 2007, 12:27:08 AM
Okay, okay, Que. No need to rub it in. ::)

;D

Oh, but I rather enjoyed that... ;)  ;D

BTW these Starker/Bach posts might interest you: http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,20.msg47134.html#msg47134.

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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2007, 01:07:20 AM »
Quote from: Mark on October 05, 2007, 03:51:10 PM

Rudin's approach is interesting, a little dark in places for me,

   thats why I like it so much  :)


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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2007, 01:40:10 AM »
Quote from: Mark on October 05, 2007, 03:53:45 PM
Not that I'm in a rush to get it, but does anyone have Starker on CD?

Yes. The 1957 recordings were issued by EMI in France in a boxed set at a ridiculous (cheap) price, coupled with the Johanna Marzty violin sonatas and partitas.

But, in the Bach cello works, I am a Casals man. One of the very few "no doubts or hesitation" recordings I posses.
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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2007, 02:59:44 AM »
Anyone heard this one?



The audio clip is certainly interesting:

http://www.fugalibera.com/readmorecd.php?cd=125&label=alpha
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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2007, 03:23:19 AM »
Quote from: Grazioso on October 06, 2007, 02:59:44 AM
Anyone heard this one?



The audio clip is certainly interesting:

http://www.fugalibera.com/readmorecd.php?cd=125&label=alpha

Got it and like it.  Makes a satisfying listen and that is quite something, considering how saturated the market already is even for recordings on period instruments.

ps. For something less idiosyncratic, but equally ably played and superably recorded, may I recommend Hidemi Suzuki's more recent recording on Deutsche Harmonia Mundi.  It's an Amati instrument with a baroque setup which he used.  Available as hybrid SACD's.

 
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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2007, 01:44:57 PM »
Masolino, I own Suzukis first and very uninspired recording of the cello-suites. Do you think his second recording is that much better, as to justify a purchase??
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2007, 03:57:52 PM »
Wispelwey, Schiff.
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2007, 06:14:11 PM »
Fournier.
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Re: Bach Cello Suites
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2007, 12:55:02 AM »
Quote from: premont on October 06, 2007, 01:44:57 PM
Masolino, I own Suzukis first and very uninspired recording of the cello-suites. Do you think his second recording is that much better, as to justify a purchase??

The second is appreciably better (more inflected and overall better thought out) than the first as far as I am concerned.  But then I don't find the first one to be "very uninspired" either - just straightforward and light on "interpretative touches" and that is fine with me.  So ymmv (your mileage may vary) I guess  ;D
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