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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1520 on: October 08, 2020, 08:11:18 AM »


This is interesting, rare motets I think some from the Choralis Constantinus, I’ve only just discovered it, it has a recognisable Savall production style, but if you can put up with that then I think it’s worth giving a shot for the motets at least, if you’re in the mood for renaissance style.

I'm thinking about purchasing these recordings,do you know them?


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« Reply #1521 on: October 08, 2020, 12:46:09 PM »
I'm thinking about purchasing these recordings,do you know them?



Yes I do, you know you can hear parts of it on YouTube? It’s interesting because it shows two different sides of Isaac’s work with the mass - 4 and 6 voiced settings. Organ in alternatim. Good sound, passionate performances, chamber style.
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« Reply #1522 on: October 09, 2020, 05:01:23 AM »
Yes I do, you know you can hear parts of it on YouTube? It’s interesting because it shows two different sides of Isaac’s work with the mass - 4 and 6 voiced settings. Organ in alternatim. Good sound, passionate performances, chamber style.

Listening to the 6 voice mass this morning, the sheer amount of alternatim is really strange to hear - they sing for a minute, then organ for a minute, then another minute of singing, then another minute of organ . . . I wonder if this is the origin of Frescobaldi’s toccatas, with their stop-go sections. I have another CD of an Isaac mass with the same alternatim approach, with a very different singing style, much more sensual. Both are good to hear.

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« Reply #1523 on: October 09, 2020, 02:14:43 PM »
Listening to the 6 voice mass this morning, the sheer amount of alternatim is really strange to hear - they sing for a minute, then organ for a minute, then another minute of singing, then another minute of organ . . . I wonder if this is the origin of Frescobaldi’s toccatas, with their stop-go sections.

Fiori musicali, but not the toccatas.

I have another CD of an Isaac mass with the same alternatim approach, with a very different singing style, much more sensual. Both are good to hear.

Which is the other one?
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« Reply #1525 on: October 10, 2020, 02:09:56 AM »
The one in the picture, this

http://www.cantusmodalis.org/cd-s

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/missae-paschalis-orgelverse/hnum/5383898

Thanks. Sorry, I got you wrong, thinking that the Stewart CD was the first one, but now I see, that you meant the Michael Procter twofer, not realizing that it contains a mass too. I own the Stewart CD already, exquisite organ playing I think.
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« Reply #1526 on: October 10, 2020, 05:59:57 AM »
Thanks. Sorry, I got you wrong, thinking that the Stewart CD was the first one, but now I see, that you meant the Michael Procter twofer, not realizing that it contains a mass too. I own the Stewart CD already, exquisite organ playing I think.

Yes, fabulous organ playing and a beautiful solo rendition of the Easter chorale at the end.
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« Reply #1527 on: October 11, 2020, 07:35:15 AM »
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Blondel de Nesle:
L'amours dont sui espris - Ensemble für frühe Musik Augsburg: Amours & Désirs
Onques maiz nus hom ne chanta - Sequentia: Love Songs In The Middle Ages
A L'Entrant D'Este - Graham Derrick, Estampie: Under the Greenwood Tree
Cuers Desirous Apaie - New Orleans Musica da Camera: The Cross of Red

Riccardo Cuor di Leone:
Ja nuns hons pris - Modo Antiquo & Bettina Hoffmann: Secular Songs & Dance From the Middle Ages

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« Reply #1528 on: October 11, 2020, 09:55:47 AM »
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Blondel de Nesle:
L'amours dont sui espris - Ensemble für frühe Musik Augsburg: Amours & Désirs
Onques maiz nus hom ne chanta - Sequentia: Love Songs In The Middle Ages
A L'Entrant D'Este - Graham Derrick, Estampie: Under the Greenwood Tree
Cuers Desirous Apaie - New Orleans Musica da Camera: The Cross of Red

Riccardo Cuor di Leone:
Ja nuns hons pris - Modo Antiquo & Bettina Hoffmann: Secular Songs & Dance From the Middle Ages

I enjoyed the Graham Derrick track the most from that bunch - though I haven’t listened to the one with Modo Antiquo. The Derrick CD is a good thing to explore, beautiful singing I think, and a refined conception of the music.  I bet it was a vanity publication through Naxos, you can sense the seriousness of the artists, the commitment.
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« Reply #1529 on: October 11, 2020, 12:52:01 PM »
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Vocal Music (German Courtly Song) - Neidhart Von Reuental / Monch Von Salzburg / Oswald Von Wolkenstein

I haven't delved very much into German Medieval music.  Some of this stuff is really nice.

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« Reply #1530 on: October 12, 2020, 12:06:07 AM »
Tonight dear EMC early music club, I'm listening to superb & splendid voice of Gregorian music from my 1951 like mint LP : Chants Grégorien sur decca qui est très bon Évidament - translation I'm listening to tree LP of different era oof making Gregorian, the second is my deutsche Gramophone 1977 my Third is my Philips 1983 LP of Gregorian offering in LP media wow and to think it cost me 2.99 mint well i clean it up whit cleaner  home made dose the job, I all ready said I engineer one good cleaner neato.

What are your favorite early LP of Gregorian music to date in LP or new 2020 in CD ? double questions?

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« Reply #1531 on: October 12, 2020, 07:01:46 PM »

What are your favorite early LP of Gregorian music to date in LP or new 2020 in CD ? double questions?

This




https://www.discogs.com/Dominique-Vellard-Emmanuel-Bonnardot-Veritas-Mea-Chant-Gr%C3%A9gorien/release/13413579

PM me if you want the transfers.

I’m also keen on the old recordings made by Godehard Joppich, many if not all have been transferred.
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« Reply #1532 on: October 12, 2020, 07:07:08 PM »

I haven't delved very much into German Medieval music.  Some of this stuff is really nice.

Yes it is, look out for Susanne Lutzenberger’s recordings with Per Sonat, for example. I much prefer these German composers to the troubadours.
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« Reply #1533 on: October 12, 2020, 08:07:45 PM »
Yes it is, look out for Susanne Lutzenberger’s recordings with Per Sonat, for example. I much prefer these German composers to the troubadours.

You must mean Sabine Lutzenberger   ;)    small typo - but I found her, and thanks.

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« Reply #1534 on: October 13, 2020, 08:32:43 AM »
You must mean Sabine Lutzenberger   ;)    small typo - but I found her, and thanks.

Yes, sorry about that. A male voice I like in this stuff is Eberhard Kummer. Rene Zosso too -- though his recordings may be hard to find.
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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1535 on: October 22, 2020, 09:17:43 AM »
Ensemble of early music that were revelation for you, well Claritas for Marenzio and Gesualdo  make an excellent job, look Marenzio the Salve Regina is so surreal, and the ensemble  Rossoporpora is my discovery on Ricercar division Arcana, it made me like  Luca Marenzio even more than before  gorgeous CD  L'amoroso & Crudo Stile, Mandryka have you heard this friend cheers from montreal and salute !

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« Reply #1536 on: October 28, 2020, 09:07:03 PM »
Ensemble of early music that were revelation for you, well Claritas for Marenzio and Gesualdo  make an excellent job, look Marenzio the Salve Regina is so surreal, and the ensemble  Rossoporpora is my discovery on Ricercar division Arcana, it made me like  Luca Marenzio even more than before  gorgeous CD  L'amoroso & Crudo Stile, Mandryka have you heard this friend cheers from montreal and salute !

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The L'amoroso & Crudo Stile CD really blew my mind, elevates Marenzio to a top 5 composer for me. I'm looking forward to more from the same group.

Also, is anyone in here familiar with Ensemble Cappella Vocal, the rather absurdly-named Japanese group led by Tetsuro Hantai? Among other things, they have recorded almost every Josquin mass according to Rebecca Stewart's modal singing principles, which given the relative dearth of recordings in that style makes this a real treasure trove (even for someone like me who prefers motets to masses and Ockeghem to Josquin). I just discovered this and needed somewhere to share my excitement!

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« Reply #1537 on: October 29, 2020, 08:24:32 AM »
The L'amoroso & Crudo Stile CD really blew my mind, elevates Marenzio to a top 5 composer for me. I'm looking forward to more from the same group.

Also, is anyone in here familiar with Ensemble Cappella Vocal, the rather absurdly-named Japanese group led by Tetsuro Hantai?

Tetsuro Hanai, not Hantai. Yes I have them singing Machaut. It is indeed modal singing. I'd like to hear the Josquin but have never managed to find it.
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« Reply #1538 on: October 29, 2020, 07:47:24 PM »
Tetsuro Hanai, not Hantai. Yes I have them singing Machaut. It is indeed modal singing. I'd like to hear the Josquin but have never managed to find it.

Thank you for the correction, that does seem like an especially important distinction... I think I actually had the name of harpsichordist Pierre Hantaï floating around in my head.

I believe most of the CDs can be ordered outside Japan from this website http://www.regulus-classics.com/en/albums_regulus.html#vocal_ensemble_cappella - as soon as I have a more permanent address (I'm currently traveling for an extended period of time) I intend to put in an order, and of course I'll be happy to share the files too.

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« Reply #1539 on: October 31, 2020, 04:27:55 AM »
Hyperion's November list includes several early music recordings:

Sacred treasures of Christmas
T‎HE LONDON ORATORY SCHOLA CANTORUM
C‎HARLES COLE conductor

A celebration of Christmas from the Nativity through to Candlemas, in music from across sixteenth-century Europe: Renaissance polyphony at its finest.

Sacred motets from the Golden Age
of Spanish polyphony
Sacred treasures of Spain
T‎HE LONDON ORATORY SCHOLA CANTORUM
C‎HARLES COLE conductor

Music to illustrate the Golden Age: a selection of motets from sixteenth-century Spain culminating in Alonso Lobo’s great funerary ode for Philip II, Versa est in luctum.

J‎osquin des Prez
Missa Hercules Dux Ferrarie, Missa D'ung aultre amer & Missa Faysant regretz
T‎HE TALLIS SCHOLARS
P‎ETER PHILLIPS conductor

‘With this ninth and final release in our Josquin Mass cycle we come to three of his greatest works. Although all three Masses come roughly from his early middle age, together they form a perfect showcase for a genius who felt challenged to make each setting different.’ (Peter Phillips)