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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1640 on: September 09, 2021, 07:59:53 AM »
Jenkins, John (1592-1678) - Fantasias, Consorts, & Others - after Orlando G. onto a simpler to understand long-lived English composer who wrote some wonderfully relaxing music for groups of viols; short bio below - own the 4 discs shown (first CD in the Fretwork box).  Any favorite recordings, recommendations, and/or comments.  Dave :)

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Jenkins was a long-active and prolific composer whose many years of life, spanning the time from William Byrd to Henry Purcell, witnessed great changes in English music. He is noted for developing the viol consort fantasia, being influenced in the 1630s by an earlier generation of English composers including Orlando Gibbons and others. Jenkins composed numerous 4, 5, and 6 part fantasias for viol consort, almans, courants and pavanes, and he breathed new life into the antiquated form of the In Nomine. He was less experimental than his friend William Lawes; indeed, Jenkins's music was more conservative than that of many of his contemporaries. It is characterised by a sensuous lyricism, highly skilled craftsmanship, and an original usage of tonality and counterpoint. (Source)

     

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« Reply #1641 on: September 09, 2021, 11:20:22 PM »
Jenkins, John (1592-1678) - Fantasias, Consorts, & Others - after Orlando G. onto a simpler to understand long-lived English composer who wrote some wonderfully relaxing music for groups of viols; short bio below - own the 4 discs shown (first CD in the Fretwork box).  Any favorite recordings, recommendations, and/or comments.  Dave :)

     

 Robert Smith with Paolo Pandolfo for the duos, Robert Smith alone for the lyra viol music, and Savall for the large scale pieces, are tops for me.

Savall makes the music sound as though it looks back to the Renaissance, rather than forward to the Baroque, and I like that very much.
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« Reply #1642 on: September 10, 2021, 06:40:17 AM »
Robert Smith with Paolo Pandolfo for the duos, Robert Smith alone for the lyra viol music, and Savall for the large scale pieces, are tops for me.

Savall makes the music sound as though it looks back to the Renaissance, rather than forward to the Baroque, and I like that very much.

Thanks Mandryka for the suggestions above - I just put the Smith/Pandolfo CD below in my cart (assume that is the one you like?) - a little stiff at $17 USD but free Prime shipping for me; yesterday I also ordered the other other disc shown, only $10 (2 excellent reviews attached); also there are other reviews of the recordings shown in my previous post, all excellent; so there appears to be a plethora of Jenkins options, but the guy wrote over 800 works!  BTW, I love Savall but the one disc shown on Amazon w/ S/H is $25 - too high unless I had some credit (which should show up soon from my AMEX card); also, not available on Spotify for a listen - will decide later about the duo disc (only a third of the tracts are Jenkins, as I recall).  Dave :)

 

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« Reply #1643 on: September 10, 2021, 06:54:06 AM »
My view is that Jenkins is just a very very good composer and he sounds agreeable whoever's playing. Simpson's a bit like that too.  In fact, I'm not sure I could tell Jenkins and Simpson apart in a blind test.

This morning I dug the Savall Jenkins out -- it was as good as I remembered. I actually listened to every track -- and normally I have an attention span of about 15 minutes.

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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1644 on: September 11, 2021, 04:02:32 AM »
Dear EMC, you most listen to this one, a special composer of year 1000, an ancient monk the practice plainchant & motets whit some dissonance in his tropes and odd stuff you know, I'm pretty sure to my knowledge this is the birth of avant-garde, because eventuality celestial harmony become strangely atonal to some degree making a contrast, in the end you're like puzzled this is far out for a ars antiqua to me Fulbert DE Chartres seem the green enigma , is music spiritual yet  bold and adventurous for it's respective era, someone most acknowledge this I only know one recording of Fulbert DE Chartres : Musicien de l'an mille- ensemble Venance Fortunat, this CD now out of print but worth buying this is  very very good pleasant and far from boring plainchant and very odd sounding like The Bamberg Code, but way beyond this, special music of monk intoxicate on chartreuse a legal alcohol in Canada the very spiritual Chartreuse liquor from France the green one, there is a yellow one  less herbalize.
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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1645 on: September 12, 2021, 12:37:33 AM »
Susato/Morley: Danserye [Munrow]





The music of both composers is very engaging and entertaining. The style and tone of the respective composer’s music is wonderful in the contrast that is presented here. This album is quite delightful. As always with Munrow, the sound world is constantly fascinating, wondrous, engaging and compelling. Munrow was such a prodigious talent and his tragic loss was immense.
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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1646 on: September 12, 2021, 04:06:01 AM »
Susato/Morley: Danserye [Munrow]





The music of both composers is very engaging and entertaining. The style and tone of the respective composer’s music is wonderful in the contrast that is presented here. This album is quite delightful. As always with Munrow, the sound world is constantly fascinating, wondrous, engaging and compelling. Munrow was such a prodigious talent and his tragic loss was immense.

I used to have the same LP,now I have it on CD  :)

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« Reply #1647 on: September 12, 2021, 04:07:29 AM »
I used to have the same LP,now I have it on CD  :)

Great music and music making. I am a big fan of what Munrow did.
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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1648 on: September 12, 2021, 11:24:21 PM »
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« Reply #1649 on: September 13, 2021, 06:41:50 AM »
I moved the recent posts on Lassus to Lassus' Library

Thanks Que - just left a post there - got some Amazon credit and your recommendation for the Prophetiae Sibyllarum was there for $16 USD - used enough to get half off, so pleased w/ that purchase (also left some reviews, now in the other thread, that might interest others is wanting this work in their collection).  Dave :)

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« Reply #1650 on: September 13, 2021, 06:57:10 AM »
Lawes, William (1602-1645) - Viols, Consort Suites, Fantasias w/ the groups below; the Fretwork 5-disc box includes two by Lawes, so 5 total CDs of his works shown; he was short-lived, killed in the English Civil War on the royalist's side.  See link for his discography - this music is beautiful and he likely would have written much more; sorting out 'overlaps' in this listing of his recordings is not easy - if there are any other offerings in the link that do not match what I already own, please make suggestions.  Thanks.  Dave :)

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William Lawes was an English composer and musician. He spent his adult life in Charles's I employ, composing secular music and songs for court masques, as well as sacred anthems and motets. He is most remembered today for his sublime viol consort suites for between three and six players and his lyra viol music. (Source)

   

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« Reply #1651 on: September 13, 2021, 08:29:30 AM »
The Fretwork Lawes, suites with the organ, is very good because it is so supple and unpredictable. I don’t know the Purcell Quartet CD. I like the London Baroque (with Egarr’s organ, he’s the star!!) but I find the sonatas a bit tame, the music wears out its welcome chez moi.

There is one other one you should try I think, it’s very different from Fretwork - and that’s Mark Levy’s ensemble Concordia. I think Concordia make the music sound fabulous contrapuntally, their viols sound interesting too, this CD (which I play often)



And I’m very fond of Savall, who is wonderfully lyrical and poised, and makes a beautiful sound.

And there’s also this, with some top musicians - Leonhardt, Satoh, Kuijken, Jacobs. It hasn’t won a place in my heart but it is certainly worth a listen, you may feel differently from me.




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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1652 on: September 13, 2021, 09:10:56 AM »
The Fretwork Lawes, suites with the organ, is very good because it is so supple and unpredictable. I don’t know the Purcell Quartet CD. I like the London Baroque (with Egarr’s organ, he’s the star!!) but I find the sonatas a bit tame, the music wears out its welcome chez moi.

There is one other one you should try I think, it’s very different from Fretwork - and that’s Mark Levy’s ensemble Concordia. I think Concordia make the music sound fabulous contrapuntally, their viols sound interesting too, this CD (which I play often)

     

And I’m very fond of Savall, who is wonderfully lyrical and poised, and makes a beautiful sound.

And there’s also this, with some top musicians - Leonhardt, Satoh, Kuijken, Jacobs. It hasn’t won a place in my heart but it is certainly worth a listen, you may feel differently from me.

Thanks again for the suggestions - there was a 'used' Concordia CD on Amazon USA which I purchased for $7.  I also 'culled out' two discs w/ Monica Huggett (above) which duplicated the 2-disc set of Purcell Quartet which I really like more and have other recordings by them; plus, Nigel North and Paul O'Dette are on theorbos in the Purcell offering; should be happy w/ what I now own + your recommendation.  Dave :)

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« Reply #1653 on: September 13, 2021, 10:22:59 AM »
Given that you like the Purcell Quartet (Richard Boothby) and I like Fretwork (Richard Boothby) I think you owe it to yourself to try this, at least to listen once.



I find it utterly forgettable. But others may love it.
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« Reply #1654 on: September 13, 2021, 12:07:48 PM »
Given that you like the Purcell Quartet (Richard Boothby) and I like Fretwork (Richard Boothby) I think you owe it to yourself to try this, at least to listen once.



I find it utterly forgettable. But others may love it.

Well, never said I didn't like Fretwork, own several of their boxes including the one w/ Lawes and use to see them live on visits to our University's yearly music series decades ago - noticed that Boothby was part of both groups - as to the 'solo lyra viol' recording above, it is available on Spotify, so I definitely will do a listen - thanks for the suggestion.  Dave :)

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« Reply #1655 on: September 13, 2021, 05:23:32 PM »
Crosspost from WAYLT2

Catholic church music from 17th century Brabant, when Catholicism was de jure (but not de facto) suppressed.
Benedictus a Sancto Josepho was a Carmelite friar and somewhat well known composer.
One short modern work is included.



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The modern work sticks out like a sore thumb due to harmonic/melodic progressions.
The main part of the program is comparable in style to Schutz or Monteverdi.
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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1656 on: September 14, 2021, 09:04:43 AM »
Given that you like the Purcell Quartet (Richard Boothby) and I like Fretwork (Richard Boothby) I think you owe it to yourself to try this, at least to listen once.

   

I find it utterly forgettable. But others may love it.

Well some updates.  I did listen to Boothby performing the Lawes solo viols; own enough solo viol music, so will pass on that one; the Smith/Pandolfo CD arrived yesterday and have had two listens - enjoy!   Saw on the listening thread this morning a post by Que about the Binchois disc inserted above - you must like the performance also?  Dave :)


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« Reply #1657 on: September 14, 2021, 09:48:32 AM »
Saw on the listening thread this morning a post by Que about the Binchois disc inserted above - you must like the performance also?  Dave :)

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« Reply #1658 on: September 15, 2021, 05:45:42 PM »
This looks like an interesting new release

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Re: The Early Music Club (EMC)
« Reply #1659 on: September 16, 2021, 04:36:12 AM »
Hello folks

I received two interresting LP Archive Production

The Early Renaissance serie B: From Oswald Wolkenstein up to The Locheimer Liederbuch.

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The High Renaissance (16th Century) series B: At the imperial court of Maximilian I

Love this LP a lot I wonder if some people heard them so far here on GmG.