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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #220 on: August 18, 2016, 08:48:36 PM »
I got this rather disappointing message from Lena Jaconsen today:

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Many thanks for your message.  I'd have been pleased to upload my paper on rhetoric in Buxtehude but unfortunately I can't locate the relevant  analogue Organ Yearbook volume in my own library.  However, Oxford University Press may offer you a possibility of downloading a PDF version of the paper. I'm sorry that I can't be of any more assistance here but I'm sure there must be a digital downloadable version lying around somewhere.  Many thanks for your interest in my work.

Best regards, Lena

As far as I know you can't get it from OUP and there is no downloadable version elsewhere.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #222 on: December 30, 2016, 05:10:43 PM »
Mr Reilly,

Considering the most recent posts about tuning, could you tell us if the Buxtehude piece was played on an instrument with some variety of mean-tone tuning?

By the by, just got a copy of the 2nd ed of your book.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #223 on: December 30, 2016, 05:42:55 PM »
I am currently listening to the Harald Vogel set. I'm only on CD2 of 7 so far, but am greatly enjoying the music, most of which is new to me. Favorite so far: Passacaglia in D (BuxWV 161), which to my ear sounds surprisingly modern--possibly even romantic in a sense.

Have any of you read Kerala Snyder's new(ish) biography of Buxtehude?
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #224 on: December 31, 2016, 04:35:17 AM »
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Whoo!! The Buxtehude is the real deal, here, almost... that's how good it is.


Mr Reilly,

Considering the most recent posts about tuning, could you tell us if the Buxtehude piece was played on an instrument with some variety of mean-tone tuning?

By the by, just got a copy of the 2nd ed of your book.

Hey Mickey,

first of all: excellent, flattering news about you having gotten a copy of SBB-II. I hope you'll enjoy the journey of discovery. Also: Behind this account isn't Mr. Reilly but just the contributing author.
To your Buxtehude Question: the tuning that C.Schornsheim uses for the Capricciosa is Mitteltönig. (The temperement in the Bach is in Kirnberger III.)

All the best,

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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #225 on: January 18, 2017, 11:30:20 AM »
To get a cheap complete recording (I already have a few single discs with Ablitzer, Vogel, Oster...) would you guys recommend Stella or Spang-Hanssen?
And what about Stella's harpsichord set? (Far less options for these pieces than for the organ, it seems.)
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #226 on: January 18, 2017, 12:06:06 PM »
To get a cheap complete recording (I already have a few single discs with Ablitzer, Vogel, Oster...) would you guys recommend Stella or Spang-Hanssen?
And what about Stella's harpsichord set? (Far less options for these pieces than for the organ, it seems.)

My own view is that there's a lot of pleasure to be had from Wilson and Alessandrini and Mortensen in the harpsichord music, and from Koopman and Stella too. Particularly from Wilson. But you can't go too wrong.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #227 on: January 18, 2017, 12:13:08 PM »
To get a cheap complete recording (I already have a few single discs with Ablitzer, Vogel, Oster...) would you guys recommend Stella or Spang-Hanssen?
And what about Stella's harpsichord set? (Far less options for these pieces than for the organ, it seems.)

Spang-Hanssen for the organ works. Stella for the harpsichord works, if you want a complete set.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #228 on: January 18, 2017, 09:08:13 PM »
Spang-Hanssen for the organ works. Stella for the harpsichord works, if you want a complete set.

Agree 100% with Spang-Hanssen on organ, as a cheap set - his Chaconne in c minor was what made me start loving Buxtehude and organ music in general.

Vogel (I don't have the complete set) is more interesting for the selection of organs than his playing, which is convincing, but won't blow me away.

Koopman is of course polarizing with his trademark high tempos, but great fun to listen to (although the sound of the 18th-century Stade organ in the last organ disc sticks out like a sore thumb among those of the other 17th century organs).

Foccroulle is very nice to listen to, but don't have performances that stand out for me.

Ablitzer is avaliable nowhere but on iTunes, and while the selection of organs is interesting, the playing isn't (at least judging from the few samples - a great shame, because I love his Praetorius CD).

But for harpsichord, I would pick Koopman over Stella, who impresses me more with his immense productivity than his playing. But I think Buxtehude's harpsichord music is just crying out for a sympathetic performer, as even Koopman has his shortcomings.

Some really nice "singles" are Alessandrini on harpsichord, Koito's anthology, and Piet Kee's 3 recordings!

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Re: Buxtehude's Box
« Reply #229 on: February 09, 2017, 10:45:32 PM »
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Whoo!! The Buxtehude is the real deal, here, almost... that's how good it is.

I enjoyed hearing her La Capricciosa too: cheerful and light and colourful and straight ahead.  I like Wilson and Mortensen too.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #230 on: March 31, 2017, 11:20:45 AM »
Here's a toccata played on clavichord by Dick Verwolf

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Someone on youtube there makes this comment

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hmm... This interpretation sounds as if one used the pure Romantic phrase, as described by Hugo Riemann and other 19th century German theoreticians.
All these rubati are very beautiful but they remind me of the early 20th century reception of the works by Buxtehude (Straube and others).

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Does the phrasing really damage the structure of the music? I don't hear that.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #231 on: December 13, 2017, 05:31:16 PM »
Does anyone know if there are any differences between this:



and this:



I was wondering if one edition has better sound quality than the other, or if the contents are identical. 



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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #232 on: December 13, 2017, 09:10:26 PM »
Does anyone know if there are any differences between this:



and this:



I was wondering if one edition has better sound quality than the other, or if the contents are identical.

These are both Membran releases, so I would expect them to be similar. I own one of them (the upper one) and can say, that the sound is surprisingly better on this Membran release than on the original Danish releases (Paula  and Danish Classico). I can also say, that the Membran release is legally licensed from Danish Classico. The recordings have also been released on NCA, which is a sub-label for Membran.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #233 on: December 13, 2017, 09:50:48 PM »
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Does the phrasing really damage the structure of the music? I don't hear that.

The dynamic shadings remind me more of Romantic practice than the phrasing.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #234 on: December 14, 2017, 04:04:08 AM »
These are both Membran releases, so I would expect them to be similar. I own one of them (the upper one) and can say, that the sound is surprisingly better on this Membran release than on the original Danish releases (Paula  and Danish Classico). I can also say, that the Membran release is legally licensed from Danish Classico. The recordings have also been released on NCA, which is a sub-label for Membran.

Thanks for that. The lower one was apparently released in 2014, so I assume it's a straight reissue of the upper one, which was released in 2011. Does your copy of the upper one include a booklet? Amazon reviews of the lower one say it doesn't have one. 

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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #235 on: December 14, 2017, 04:25:53 AM »
I listened to a tremendous thing by Bux this week, BuxWV 207, a choral fantasy, in this CD by Winsemius which I  am enjoying a lot.



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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #236 on: December 14, 2017, 05:55:48 AM »
Thanks for that. The lower one was apparently released in 2014, so I assume it's a straight reissue of the upper one, which was released in 2011. Does your copy of the upper one include a booklet? Amazon reviews of the lower one say it doesn't have one.

There is no booklet in the Membran release. But booklets were included in the Paula release and the Danish Classico release, which I also own.
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« Reply #237 on: December 14, 2017, 06:11:18 AM »
I listened to a tremendous thing by Bux this week, BuxWV 207, a choral fantasy, in this CD by Winsemius which I  am enjoying a lot.



Yes, a nice recording, not the least because of the magnificent organ in Nieuwe Kerk, Amsterdam. And
including Weckmann's Magnificat.

BTW BuxWV is not a choral phantasy but a sequence of four choral preludes.
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« Reply #238 on: December 14, 2017, 06:21:09 AM »
There is no booklet in the Membran release. But booklets were included in the Paula release and the Danish Classico release, which I also own.

Thanks. It would seem both versions of the Membran release are the same, as they have the same numbers on the back covers - "order no. 224050, PC: 383, LC12281". Since neither has a booklet and the contents are presumably sonically identical I'll get whichever is cheaper.

Edit: not the same numbers according to some sites. I'd still assume they are sonically the same though.
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Re: Buxtehude organ works
« Reply #239 on: December 14, 2017, 01:47:54 PM »
Yes, a nice recording, not the least because of the magnificent organ in Nieuwe Kerk, Amsterdam. And
including Weckmann's Magnificat.

BTW BuxWV is not a choral phantasy but a sequence of four choral preludes.

Winsemius's way of making one phrase link into the next is special, when I hear him play I imagine someone with very supple joints in his limbs, someone relaxed and happy to be making music. I like what he does when he plays fast and when he plays slow.
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