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Re: Charles Ives
« Reply #500 on: October 10, 2019, 02:47:11 AM »
I think I'm finally beginning to get into Ives. His music is extremely unique, and quite diverse. I don't know how he went from writing things like the calm, pastoral, "normal" 2nd symphony to The Unanswered Question and Central Park in the Dark in a matter of years, but lo and behold. I am a fan of his small orchestral pieces, like Hymn, The Gong on the Hook and Ladder, Hallowe'en, and the aforementioned Central Park and Unanswered Question. I've been listening exclusively to the Bernstein/NYPO DG disc with all these and the 2nd symphony. I see many seem to enjoy the earlier Sony recording. Is it worth checking out? I think this one sounds great. It's a late recording of Bernstein's.

I am probably also about to get a CD with Pierre-Laurent Aimard playing the Concord sonata, along with a few songs. I have not enjoyed Ives' songs in the past, but I'm willing to give them another shot.

Anyone been listening to Ives lately?

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Re: Charles Ives
« Reply #501 on: October 10, 2019, 03:51:01 AM »
Always do. Not often, but regularly. But I don't think I'd have ever gotten into Ives had I not heard him in concert on several occasions. It's SUCH effective music (esp. the orchestral music) for the live experience.


FYI A bit on Ives:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenslaurson/2017/11/08/classical-cd-of-the-week-alexei-lubimov-supreme-in-ives-webern-berg/


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenslaurson/2016/03/30/classical-cd-of-the-week-charles-ives-down-under/


http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-profound-existentialism-of-charles.html


https://ionarts.blogspot.com/2013/08/notes-from-2013-salzburg-festival-7.html Notes from the 2013 Salzburg Festival ( 7 ) Ives Got Something to Remember
https://ionarts.blogspot.com/2013/01/schubert-schumann-ives-not-beautiful.html Schubert, Schumann, Ives: Not Beautiful, Courageous!
https://ionarts.blogspot.com/2012/02/musica-viva-munich-ives-american-mahler.html Ives, the American Mahler?
https://ionarts.blogspot.com/2011/08/notes-from-2011-salzburg-festival-15.html Notes from the 2011 Salzburg Festival ( 15 ) Chamber Concert • Beethoven, Ives
https://ionarts.blogspot.com/2011/08/notes-from-2011-salzburg-festival-12.html Notes from the 2011 Salzburg Festival ( 12 ) Camerata 1 • Mahler Scenes 8

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Re: Charles Ives
« Reply #502 on: October 11, 2019, 01:48:45 AM »
... I've been listening exclusively to the Bernstein/NYPO DG disc with all these and the 2nd symphony. I see many seem to enjoy the earlier Sony recording. Is it worth checking out? I think this one sounds great. It's a late recording of Bernstein's.

The 2nd symphony is a favourite and I have both recordings, but since acquiring the later one (DG) I do always listen to that.  I don't think the performance has changed much but the plusher DG sound seems to emphasise a Brahmsian side to the symphony.  The earlier recording - which is a good one for its time - seems more, well, American.

Here are 3 discs to consider - although I don't have any time for the 3rd symphony - but the 4th is a storming work - Morlot a modern recording, Serebrier and Stokowski 'classic' ones (I seem to recall Serebrier also assisted on the Stokowski recording, which I think was the first 4th on record and roughly contemporary with Bernstein's first recording of the 2nd).





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Re: Charles Ives
« Reply #503 on: June 13, 2021, 02:54:37 AM »
Charles Ives
9 Church Anthems (1890-1901)
The Celestial Country
The Gregg Smith Singers
Gregg Smith




Probably only for the Charles Ives completist, as none of his experimental or modernist voice is present. That said, his writing for church choir is assured in its part writing, yet with none of his peculiar character, and some of the organ parts sound like they were drawn from an operetta. Bread of the World is the moodiest of the anthems, and Let There Be Light is the only work where Ives is in full Ives-mode.

The Celestial Country is a sacred cantata well worth hearing, although it is still drawn from a grand 19th Century Romantic idiom. Ives' Romantic voice lets loose a little though, and the chamber orchestra is fun against the organ-only accompanied church anthems.

From 2003, the Gregg Smith Singers show their age, not nearly as athletic or cohesive as their younger selves. The Celestial Country is a 70's remaster though, and it shows the GSS at their peak. Nice music without a particularly personal stamp; I would seek out Ives' Psalms for that, although I still don't think the Gregg Smith performances have made it to CD.
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