Charles Ives

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Concord

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on May 11, 2013, 05:41:38 PM
His profession was Insurance. He went to Yale.

That's two. There are others.

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Concord on May 11, 2013, 06:22:05 PM
That's two. There are others.

I feel like the sport is wrong.

Concord

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on May 11, 2013, 06:27:46 PM
I feel like the sport is wrong.

The sport is right - to a degree. Ives did play football, but in high school, not college.

There are more.

Dax

Ruggles not Cowell.

One heckler.

Why can't you stand up before fine strong music like this and use your ears like a man!

Karl Henning

And the other piece in this morning's service (in addition to the Stravinsky Bogoroditse Devo) was the Ives song, "Songs My Mother Taught Me." (I really was not expecting Ives this week, after the Linda Ronstadt jokes last week . . . .)
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Concord

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Quote from: Dax on May 12, 2013, 02:17:42 AM
Ruggles not Cowell.

One heckler.

Why can't you stand up before fine strong music like this and use your ears like a man!

Ruggles is correct, for 25 points. The piece was Men and Mountains.

And finally, the celebrated outburst probably never happened. In his biogaphy of Ives, Swafford reports that Ives later wrote it was something he wished he had said. I think we all have moments like that.

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: karlhenning on May 12, 2013, 09:02:47 AM
And the other piece in this morning's service (in addition to the Stravinsky Bogoroditse Devo) was the Ives song, "Songs My Mother Taught Me." (I really was not expecting Ives this week, after the Linda Ronstadt jokes last week . . . .)

A great song from the Ives collection.

http://www.youtube.com/v/oANpTJMDewY

sound67

Any update on the future of Charles Ives's home in Redding CT after it was sold to developers in September 2012?

"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

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Archaic Torso of Apollo

Seeking to expand my Ives collection, I've seen this 100th Anniversary commemorative box set (5 LPs), issued by Columbia in 1974, for sale in a few places. I don't know how much of this has been re-issued on CD. Does anyone have this?



formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Leo K.

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Quote from: Velimir on December 09, 2013, 08:53:43 PM
Seeking to expand my Ives collection, I've seen this 100th Anniversary commemorative box set (5 LPs), issued by Columbia in 1974, for sale in a few places. I don't know how much of this has been re-issued on CD. Does anyone have this?



Yes, I have the LP set and it's a favorite. It's no longer an essential set but I have fond memories of this set since I first came across it at a library in 1989. The last disk has interview excerpts from Ives' family and colleagues, interviewed by Vivian Perlis for her book 'Charles Ives Remembered.' The large booklet is fun to have. The textual information is probably out of date in light of recent Ives scholarship.

I think most of the material has been released on CD. The Bernstein and Stokowski tracks are on CD. My favorite 'General Booth Enter's Heaven' is on this set and I haven't seen that on CD, but the whole set is not worth one track. I keep it for nostalgic reasons.


Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: Leo K. on January 06, 2014, 01:02:36 PM
Yes, I have the LP set and it's a favorite. It's no longer an essential set [etc]

Thanks for the feedback. After some consideration, I've decided not to get it - too much duplication, and I'm not really interested in the bonus discs.

A fair amount of vocal Ives appears to be LP only, like the Gregg Smith Singers albums. I'll look out for single LP issues.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Leo K.

Quote from: Velimir on January 07, 2014, 01:45:21 PM
Thanks for the feedback. After some consideration, I've decided not to get it - too much duplication, and I'm not really interested in the bonus discs.

A fair amount of vocal Ives appears to be LP only, like the Gregg Smith Singers albums. I'll look out for single LP issues.

I love the Gregg Smith Singers albums of Ives. I did the same thing, I sought out and bought those albums and they are incredible.

Mirror Image

THE IVES OF MARCH IS HERE!!!!





Should we break out the champagne? Should we smoke some mary jane? Should we just listen to some Ives and enjoy? Sounds good to me! 8)

Leo K.

Perfect timing John! I've been spinning much of Ives the last two weeks. Re-falling in love with the Concord Sonata and the 4th Symphony in particular, having a blast aquiring more recordings for my Ives library. I've been collecting broadcast performances and long OOP LP recordings.


Mirror Image

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Quote from: Leo K. on March 03, 2014, 08:18:29 AM
Perfect timing John! I've been spinning much of Ives the last two weeks. Re-falling in love with the Concord Sonata and the 4th Symphony in particular, having a blast aquiring more recordings for my Ives library. I've been collecting broadcast performances and long OOP LP recordings.

I just did that post for Monkey Greg since March is Ives month. :) But that's good to hear about you and your Ives collection, Leo. He's certainly one of my favorites. Unfortunately, I have so many other musical interests that are taking up a considerable amount of my time right now. But I'm hoping by mid-March, I'll swing back around to Ives at some point.

What are some of your favorite Ives works?

Leo K.

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 03, 2014, 08:21:50 AM
I just did that post for Monkey Greg since March is Ives month. :) But that's good to hear about you and your Ives collection, Leo. He's certainly one of my favorites. Unfortunately, right now I have so many other musical interests that are taking up a considerable amount of my time right now. But I'm hoping by mid-March, I'll swing back around to Ives at some point.

What are some of your favorite Ives works?

Thanks John! I totally understand. I've also been balancing Bach, Bruckner and now Roger Sessions and it's a wonder I get time to listen to all this great stuff.

My favorite Ives works are the Concord Sonata, Three Places in New England, General Booth (the orch. arrangement) and the 2nd Symphony. Long ago I fell out of favor with the 4th Symphony, but that has changed recently! Thank god. What a work!


Mirror Image

Quote from: Leo K. on March 03, 2014, 08:33:29 AM
Thanks John! I totally understand. I've also been balancing Bach, Bruckner and now Roger Sessions and it's a wonder I get time to listen to all this great stuff.

My favorite Ives works are the Concord Sonata, Three Places in New England, General Booth (the orch. arrangement) and the 2nd Symphony. Long ago I fell out of favor with the 4th Symphony, but that has changed recently! Thank god. What a work!

Nice list! Speaking of Sessions, he's always been one of those composers that I've been meaning to check out but never have actually gotten around to yet.

Have you heard any of Ives' chamber works? This is an area of Ives I have the largest blind spot, but I'm hoping to pickup a recording of the SQs and Violin Sonatas today.

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: Leo K. on March 03, 2014, 08:18:29 AM
and long OOP LP recordings.

Which for instance? A lot of good Ives seems to be stranded on vinyl.

Quote from: Leo K. on March 03, 2014, 08:33:29 AM
My favorite Ives works are the Concord Sonata, Three Places in New England, General Booth (the orch. arrangement) and the 2nd Symphony.

I'm planning to hear the CSO play the 2nd Symphony next month, under Mark Elder.  :)
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Leo K.

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Quote from: Mirror Image on March 03, 2014, 08:36:44 AM
Nice list! Speaking of Sessions, he's always been one of those composers that I've been meaning to check out but never have actually gotten around to yet.

Have you heard any of Ives' chamber works? This is an area of Ives I have the largest blind spot, but I'm hoping to pickup a recording of the SQs and Violin Sonatas today.

Thanks John. Years ago I listened to Ives' String Quartets often (the Emerson QT), his No.1 being my favorite. I really like the Piano Trio (w/ Yo Yo Ma on Sony). I didn't listen to the Violin Sonatas much at all and they are a blind spot for me, as well as Ives' First Piano Sonata. I just acquired two OOP LP recordings of the First Piano Sonata and bought Denk's Ives disk (the 1st and 2nd Piano Sonatas).

I also acquired three Violin Sonata sets, an OOP LP recording of the Violin Sonatas and two more recent Violin Sonata sets, one is Hilary Hahn. I do remember Anne Akiko's account of the 4th Violin Sonata and always loved it. I'll have to dig that one out too.

Leo K.

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Quote from: Velimir on March 03, 2014, 08:47:39 AM
Which for instance? A lot of good Ives seems to be stranded on vinyl.

I'm planning to hear the CSO play the 2nd Symphony next month, under Mark Elder.  :)

I'll get you a list of what I found.

You are SO LUCKY! I'm jealous!!