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Quote from: KevinP on June 17, 2013, 10:25:10 PMSince no one's mentioned it, Herreweghe has a third recording out:(At least an Amazon reviewer says it's a third recording. I hope so because I just ordered it, along with a couple others I missed.)
Quote from: KevinP on June 17, 2013, 10:25:10 PMI wouldn't call Richter early-HIP but more proto-HIP. He was the first conductor to scale down the chorus, thus allowing faster tempi; however, he resisted the HIP movement once it really kicked off. Of the HIP conductors, Suzuki's debt to Richter is clearly expressed. There are some contrasts in the dynamics of Richter's recordings that aren't performed by anyone else but which Suzuki clearly copies, and to good effect.
Quote from: Mandryka on June 22, 2013, 02:11:27 PMHave you heard this?
Quote from: Scarpia on June 22, 2013, 07:49:03 AMBut Bach was a heretic. They will be playing it for new arrivals to the other place.
Quote from: jochanaan on June 22, 2013, 07:26:47 PMA heretic? He who wrote "Soli Deo Gloria" on most of his music? Granted, he had his difficulties with church authorities--but so did many other saints.
Quote from: KevinP on June 22, 2013, 03:22:19 PMYes, I have. I remember preferring the 1961 Richter recording, but in my journey through all the B Minor Mass recordings, I plan on listening to all four Richter recordings back-to-back and comparing them.
Quote from: jochanaan on June 22, 2013, 07:19:26 AMIn any recording of Bach's B minor Mass, we should probably cut the singers some slack. I've sung it--it's HARD!! And the instrumental parts are no easier. It's a supreme technical and endurance challenge--but oh, so worth it musically. I sometimes think that on my entrance to heaven, I'll hear the trumpets from Dona Nobis Pacem.
Quote from: Mandryka on June 23, 2013, 06:33:06 AMI plan on listening to some Richter records over the summer too. Do you know if this book says anything about his ideas?
Quote from: knight66 on June 23, 2013, 12:30:58 PMNo, for me, et Resurexit...
Quote from: Rinaldo on November 04, 2013, 12:38:06 AMJust a heads up on a recent release:[asin]B00E1SM55K[/asin]As HIP as it gets.
Quote from: HIPster on December 01, 2013, 05:23:06 PMCount me in!Has anyone heard this yet? Rinaldo?
Quote from: jlaurson on December 02, 2013, 08:18:09 AMListened to it earlier today... quite nice... indeed very nice. but not a new favorite in its category. Liked it better than Butt (whose B-Minor is the weak point in his 'triolgoy'), but didn't touch van Veldhoven or Minkowski.
Quote from: Mandryka on December 02, 2013, 09:43:01 AMCan you say a bit more about what you didn't like about Butt?
Quote from: Mandryka on December 02, 2013, 09:43:01 AMCan you say a bit more about what you didn't like about Butt? I have reservations myself, about the soloists mainly.
QuoteI bought this to hear the Windsbacher Knabenchor in Bach's B minor Mass. Boy choristers sing the soprano and alto parts, grown ups make up the tenor and bass contingent. They produce a wonderfully full, transparent and penetrating sound. No haze here, no approximate pitches, no flying sibilants. The orchestra is MI and the performance as a whole is a traditional one in the best sense, with a natural feel to the tempi. At 107 minutes it is in the same time range (105-108 minutes) as Gardiner, Suzuki, Christie, Harnoncourt, Herreweghe, Layton, Jacobs, Brüggen and other period performance practitioners, and 15-30 minutes faster than the avuncular, old fashioned (but spiritually intense) Jochum, Karajan, Klemperer, Richter, Shaw, Scherchen, Munchinger, Giulini. Two very contrasted sets of approaches indeed. I have favourites in both camps, but tend to prefer the first.
Quote from: KevinP on August 25, 2019, 04:37:27 PMBach and them were overly dramatic, weren't they?
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