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Offline KevinP

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Re: Bach: Mass in B minor
« Reply #200 on: August 27, 2019, 02:03:31 PM »
Was a time when I could say I had every Mass recording in print and then some, but I've only kept up in spurts. The Dijkstra isn't even listed on Amazon.com except in the complete box (but is on the .uk site), so no, I don't have this one. What did you like and not like about it?

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« Reply #201 on: August 29, 2019, 12:41:58 PM »
What I liked the first time round is the fact that the interpretation sounded introverted to me, having a nice « flow ». On second hearing, I found the interpretation - the Kyrie especially - not sufficiently « expressive ». So I guess what I liked the first time is roughly what I didn’t like the second time. However, I did like the soloists on both hearings.

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Re: Bach: Mass in B minor
« Reply #202 on: December 01, 2019, 10:13:25 PM »
Now, now.  according to the one true faith (Catholic) the Lutheran church itself was heresy.   :)
According to Rome, still is.
I’ve gone off all the ‘romanticised’ earlier recordings these days tending to reach for the Van Veldhoven conducting the Netherlands Bach Society. My only doubt is the somewhat ‘sleepy’ introduction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FLbiDrn8IE
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Re: Bach: Mass in B minor
« Reply #203 on: July 19, 2020, 01:23:23 AM »
JS Bach: Mass in B minor [Hengelbrock]





This is a version that I have warmed to [more] over the years. I was OK with it originally but, at the same time, I was not overly enthusiastic about it. My original contention was that it lacked fluidity and presence. The older me still holds to these premises, particularly where we have a soloist accompanied by less dense orchestration and also in its slower movements that I feel the performances are not as consistently good. That is where it loses its way for me. It is slower overall thereby losing some of its urgency and impact. I think that consistency is the main issue here. However, all forces perform admirably, instrumentalists, choral and solo vocalists.
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Re: Bach: Mass in B minor
« Reply #204 on: July 20, 2020, 09:47:44 AM »
JS Bach: Mass in B minor [Hengelbrock]

This is a version that I have warmed to [more] over the years. I was OK with it originally but, at the same time, I was not overly enthusiastic about it. My original contention was that it lacked fluidity and presence. The older me still holds to these premises, particularly where we have a soloist accompanied by less dense orchestration and also in its slower movements that I feel the performances are not as consistently good. That is where it loses its way for me. It is slower overall thereby losing some of its urgency and impact. I think that consistency is the main issue here. However, all forces perform admirably, instrumentalists, choral and solo vocalists.

What are you favourites?   :)

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Re: Bach: Mass in B minor
« Reply #205 on: July 21, 2020, 11:51:04 PM »
JS Bach: Mass in B minor [Fasolis]





When I first bought this version many years ago I remember being somewhat disappointed with it. However, I have changed my opinion over the years. I now take it for what it is; a straightforward and more devotional take on this work as opposed to the more “laboured” label I gave it back then. The pacing is not, in fact, as slow as I had perceived it before. The performances are more than fine from all forces, both instrumentalists, choral and solo vocalists. It has grown on me with time.
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Re: Bach: Mass in B minor
« Reply #206 on: July 21, 2020, 11:57:01 PM »
What are you favourites?   :)

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Hello Que. My favourite Mass in B minor is the original performance by Gardiner [Archive Productions]. I also very much like Herreweghe [Virgin] and Bruggen [Glossa] and of course Harnoncourt. Of the "newer" versions that I have heard I do like van Veldhoven. Of course, special mention also has to go to Jochum for a wonderful, "old School" performance.
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