Recommend me some dissonant music

Started by Bonehelm, October 20, 2007, 12:32:38 AM

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Cato

I cannot argue with page 1 recommendations!

I have always thought of Charles Wuorinen's Grand Bamboula for orchestra as a "fun" dissonant work.

And what do you mean by "dissonant" ?  Would you allow some microtonal music      >:D    into your speakers?    :o     :o     :o

If so, try Ivan Wyschnegradsky's 24 Preludes (still available on Amazon) or Julian Carrillo's Christopher Columbus Prelude, or anything by Harry Partch   0:)   !
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not edward

Hartmann's 6th symphony. It's the musical equivalent of having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick. ;)
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
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bhodges

Quote from: edward on October 22, 2007, 10:56:14 AM
Hartmann's 6th symphony. It's the musical equivalent of having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick. ;)

My vote for "most quotable post of the day."  ;D

--Bruce

karlhenning

It's making me think "Douglas Adams," though I don't necessarily know why  :)

Ten thumbs

As I usually play it, it's usually my fingers that bleed. Ginastera's a good bet but my preference is for Scriabin, Sonatas 6 onwards. His Prelude Op74.4 is a good one; every chord cuts to the heart.
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

jochanaan

Górecki: Old Polish Music.  A fascinating mix of modern-style tonality and twelve-tone serialism.

Shostakovich: Symphony #14.

And just about anything by Elliott Carter.

I assume you've tried some of the standard works such as Stravinsky's Rite of Spring?

(One of these days I'm going to post my own recording of Richard Rodney Bennett's Oboe Sonata.  What a great 12-tone piece! :D)
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Heather Harrison

Quote from: edward on October 22, 2007, 10:56:14 AM
Hartmann's 6th symphony. It's the musical equivalent of having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick. ;)

Great quote!  I think I might have to obtain a recording of this piece so that I can find out what this feels like.  It sounds very, very interesting.  (I usually love music that is hard on the brain.)

Heather

Ten thumbs

I'm wondering where you found straight-forward music. I don't listen to much of that.
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

greg

Quote from: Ten thumbs on October 28, 2007, 01:39:21 PM
I'm wondering where you found straight-forward music. I don't listen to much of that.
well, i usually check the dumpster or the black market dealers.....



(errrrr, i would if i were a criminal, ahem)

Ten thumbs

Quote from: The Poopy Flying Monkey on October 28, 2007, 01:42:23 PM
well, i usually check the dumpster or the black market dealers.....



(errrrr, i would if i were a criminal, ahem)
They operate outside schools here. I'm too old for that. ;)
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

snyprrr

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ruggles
cowell
crawford seeger

real dissonence of notes...

especially RUGGLES!!!!

imperfection

Quote from: snyprrr on January 08, 2009, 07:56:20 PM
ives
ruggles
cowell
crawford seeger

real dissonence of notes...

especially RUGGLES!!!!

Congratulations, you've just necromanced a one-year-and-three-months-old thread made by a long gone member.

Dax


Kullervo

Quote from: imperfection on January 08, 2009, 09:33:42 PM
Congratulations, you've just necromanced a one-year-and-three-months-old thread made by a long gone member.

Long gone? You're still here.

greg

I don't think Bonehelm is imperfection.

Daverz

#35
Quote from: gomro on October 20, 2007, 05:00:18 AM
Roberto Gerhard's 4th symphony, "New York".

That's a really tough one.  The Bamert recording is, incidently, included in The Absolute Sound's list of recommended recordings (which I think is a whacky thing to include in such a list.  Impressive as the sound is, how many audiophools are just baffled by the music.)  I'd work my way up from Gerhard's 1st symphony.

Another one in that TAS list is the Carter Variations For Orchestra (Levine), which is a good place to start with Carter's orchestral music IMO.  This is on an Archiv CD now, if you can't find a used copy.

Some good recommendations already.  A few more

Sessions, Symphony No. 3
Schoenberg, Pierrot Lunaire
                   String Quartet No. 2
                   String Trio
Berg, Lyric Suite
Stravinsky, Threni
Boulez, Pli Selon Pli (on Sony)
Crumb, Black Angels

Joe Barron

Quote from: jochanaan on October 27, 2007, 06:54:16 PM

And just about anything by Elliott Carter.


Well, let's be specific. I'd recommend Carter's the Piano Concerto and the Concerto for Orchestra. Also the String Quartet No. 3 and the Brass Quintet, though I don't think either one has a recording currently available.

Also Charles Ives's Symphony No. 4 and The Fourth of July.

Oh, and Schoenberg's String Trio.

I know what you mean by ears bleeding. You want something heavily stimulating. I'm sort of in the opposite place right ow. Been listening to so much Carter in the past couple of months that now I'm steeping myself in Haydn's String Quartets.

Good luck!

MDL

Anything by Xenakis or Varese will fit the bill. Below is my contribution to the list.


Ligeti: Requiem
Penderecki: Dies Irae, Threnody, The Devils of Loudun, St Luke Passion
Schoenberg: Erwartung, Five Pieces for Orchestra, A Survivor from Warsaw
Berg: Three Pieces for Orchestra, Wozzeck
Stockhausen: Carré, Momente, Trans, Gruppen


schweitzeralan

#38
Quote from: Bonehelm on October 20, 2007, 12:32:38 AM
I've been listening to so much straight-forward stuff it isn't even funny. My mind is bored and so is my soul. I wonder what music could make my ears bleed.

Someone has alreay mentioned Elliot Carter. He is ineed one heavy ciomoser. Initially his works were not twelve tone; but, perhaps his later works may become more serial oriented.  I don't listen to avant-gardeworks as I once did years ago, and  modernistism has dominated much of middle to late 20rh century works, most of which revel in the effort to appear original and striking as the interminable 'isms moved on, alienating many potential music lovers.  It's a broad topic.  I still believe that Carter's "Variations For Orchestra" premiered by the Louisville Orchestra in the mid fifties, remains a modernist  masterpiece in its own right with its careful, calculating develoment throughout the entire work in tight, polylinear, abstract dramatics.  Haven't heard it for years, but I recall that I appreciated the skill and details of the work's dynamic propensities.

karlhenning

Those Variations, I need to get to know better.  I've enjoyed the odd casual listen.