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Rage Arias?
« on: October 24, 2007, 04:17:26 PM »
What are the best angry sounding arias? Like D'oreste D'aiace or Armatae Face et Aguibus?

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2007, 04:30:15 PM »
What are the best angry sounding arias? Like D'oreste D'aiace or Armatae Face et Aguibus?

Well, I know that you are a Händellian, not a Mozartian, but I would still recommend "Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen" (The Queen of the Night's Aria) from Der Zauberflöte as one of the best examples of pure rage going. :)

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2007, 04:32:35 PM »
Well, I know that you are a Händellian, not a Mozartian, but I would still recommend "Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen" (The Queen of the Night's Aria) from Der Zauberflöte as one of the best examples of pure rage going. :)

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Nice joke Gurn ;D

That Eine Kleine Nachtmusik by that same guy also seems to be a good work ;)
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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2007, 04:56:56 PM »
Nice joke Gurn ;D

That Eine Kleine Nachtmusik by that same guy also seems to be a good work ;)

Oh yes, these are just the words to go with it. The contrast between the rage in the words and the Rococo lightness of the minuet is what really sets it all off. :)

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2007, 05:08:37 PM »
Oh yes, these are just the words to go with it. The contrast between the rage in the words and the Rococo lightness of the minuet is what really sets it all off. :)

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Yes, its quite unfortunate that its already been arranged into the opera "The Magical Fruit" on the Simpsons or else that would be the new craze!

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2007, 05:18:49 PM »
Yes, its quite unfortunate that its already been arranged into the opera "The Magical Fruit" on the Simpsons or else that would be the new craze!

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I think we have a new gmg record by the way :) 3rd post and we are already off topic :)

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I won't be really impressed until someone goes OT in the original post. :D

(I bet Saul could do it)

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2007, 05:22:31 PM »
;D

I won't be really impressed until someone goes OT in the original post. :D

(I bet Saul could do it)

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Handel can do that!!! I'm not sure just where yet but one of his 50,000 oratorios must have a rage aria :)

If not, we are counting on you Saul, Buddy :D
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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2007, 07:24:08 PM »
Another Mozart aria that would fit in nicely: Martern aller Arten. Constanze vows to be steadfast under "tutte le torture". Sounds mawkish? Wait 'till you hear the lass hurling imprecations around!

Or try yet another wolfgangian triumph, from Le Nozze di Figaro: there's a bona fide vengeance aria (Bartolo's La vendetta!). This Youtube video showcases bass John Tomlinson, and quite good it is!

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2007, 07:25:35 PM »
...the one's I sing on the highway using a libretto of 4 letter words. Fortunately none of them have been recorded.

But seriously, Abscheulicher! Wo eilst du hin? from Beethoven's Fidelio would I think be an excellent candidate. After all! the man more than most was in a steady state of being pissed-off.

Another example and probably a better one would be "Or sai chi l'onore" from Mozart's Don Giovanni, certainly one of the greatest female rage arias in the repertoire.

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2007, 07:29:26 PM »
Yes! Or sai chi l'onore qualifies handsomely. As does the same opera's Elvira aria: Ah! chi mi dice mai, quel barbaro dove? (she vows to tear his heart out. Ouch!!)

Who would have thought such grit could be found in Mozart  0:)

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2007, 07:32:40 PM »
Hmmphhjaaaweee, Now that we have covered Mozart, how about other composers? I know all of these Mozart arias, I listen to them just about daily. I would like to explore some arias that I can add to my list.  I like fiery arias!
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Gn89JoTfBak" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Gn89JoTfBak</a>

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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2007, 07:37:17 PM »
Fine, just so no one will mention it, also Mozart's aria from Idomeneo tutte nel cor vi sento is a pretty angry aria. And the one I said first also is from Idomeneo d'oreste d'aiace.

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Also from Handel's Giulio Cesare I love Al lampo dell'armi.
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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2007, 10:23:06 PM »
What about Die Frist is Um from the Flying Dutchman which is really a rage against fate and then there is always Alberich's curse in Das Rheingold.

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2007, 10:29:28 PM »
BEETHOVEN:  Fidelio, Pizarro's Aria "Auf euch nur will ich banen".

VERDI: Otello, Duo "Si per cielo".

VERDI: Rigoletto, Aria "Si vendetta".

VERDI: La Forza del Destino, Aria "Egli e salvo"

WAGNER: Rheingold, Alberich's Monologue "Nun, bin ich frei?"

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2007, 11:19:42 PM »
BEETHOVEN:  Fidelio, Pizarro's Aria "Auf euch nur will ich banen".

VERDI: Otello, Duo "Si per cielo".

VERDI: Rigoletto, Aria "Si vendetta".

VERDI: La Forza del Destino, Aria "Egli e salvo"

WAGNER: Rheingold, Alberich's Monologue "Nun, bin ich frei?"

Si vendetta is really a duet, Rigoletto vowing vengeance, and Gilda pleading with him to be merciful. However Rigoletto's Cortigiani, vil razza dannata! would certainly qualify.
Si pel ciel is also a duet
Enrico's cabaletta from Act I of Lucia di Lammermoor would also qualify.

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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2007, 04:46:50 AM »
Also in the running should be Monterone's terrifying outburst in Rigoletto, Act I. Not an aria, but quite the showstopper. No wonder Rigoletto exclaims: Ah! la maledizione!!
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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2007, 09:41:45 AM »
Thanks everyone, but is this as big as this list will get? Some one has to get angry somewhere in some opera...

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2007, 11:31:07 AM »
There are probably quite a few angry cabalettas in early 19th century Italian operas.

Anna's final Coppia iniqua, l'estrema vendetta from Anna Bolena
Lady Macbeth's Or tutti sorgete, ministri infernali from Verdi's Macbeth
The Princess's Acerba volutta from Cilea's Adrianna Lecouvreur
Amneris's L'aborrita rivale from Aida
Azucena's Deh! Rallentate, o barbari from Il Trovatore

Norma gets angry quite a lot, but only in duets and ensembles. So does Medea in Cherubini's operas, but, again, not in either of her two big arias.

It doesn't count, not being an aria, but Strauss's Capriccio has a Dispute Ensemble.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2007, 02:50:35 PM »
Thanks everyone, but is this as big as this list will get? Some one has to get angry somewhere in some opera...

Was your purpose just to get as big a list as possible? Is this yet another symptom of listmania? :P

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Re: Rage Arias?
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2007, 03:29:26 PM »
Was your purpose just to get as big a list as possible? Is this yet another symptom of listmania? :P

No...I just discovered that my favorite arias all sound fiery. The ones I will want to listen to often. And I did expect a huge list..