Started by Mark, October 25, 2007, 12:26:56 PM
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Quote from: Dundonnell on October 26, 2007, 06:30:46 PMRawsthorne always strikes me as more of an English Hindemith, I have to say. His music is skillfull and fastidious but lacks a certain element of warmth-as if he was just a little wary of letting emotion come too near the surface of the music. That said, the symphonies and concerti are all worth listening to and persevering with. The 1st symphony is particularly vigorous, the 2nd (with soprano solo) is warmer than most Rawsthorne, and the 3rd, though a little more 'difficult' has a very fine central slow movement. It is often forgotten that Rawsthorne too(like Bliss) composed some big choral pieces-the Medieval Diptych for baritone and orchestra(1962), 'Carmen Vitale' for soprano, chorus and orchestra(1963) and the Cantata "The God in the Cave"(1967) but the 1960s was not a good decade for the more traditional British composers as rampant modernism swept concert halls and the BBC. These choral works are not available on CD yet.A composer whose music I respect but would not go so far as to say love.
Quote from: Mark on October 27, 2007, 02:33:25 AMWhat was Warlock's real name? I always forget.
Quote from: Anancho on October 27, 2007, 05:15:29 AMGreat - except I looked on emusic and can't find a way in (to see what they've got) without signing up/registering which I'm reluctant to do until I know what I'm registering into. Do you happen to know how I can get to their catalogue?Thanks.
Quote from: Anancho on October 27, 2007, 07:11:51 AMMany thanks for that. Looks an easy site to use.
Quote from: Mark on October 27, 2007, 02:58:19 PMThought I'd link to this from the old forum:Early 20th Century English Composers
Quote from: Dundonnell on October 27, 2007, 03:31:05 PMAs I think that I said before, I was at school with and was/am a close friend of Malcolm MacDonald ...
Quote from: jurajjak on October 25, 2007, 03:44:18 PMI'd be very interested in a further discussion of Bliss. Since I first heard it about 3 years ago, I've been obsessed with Morning Heroes, probably his greatest work. Does he have any other works that are equally good? I know Rout, the Color Symphony, some of the film scores (i.e., Things to Come), Checkmate, the oboe quintent, and a couple other pieces, and while much of it is excellent, I haven't found another Bliss masterpiece on the level of Morning Heroes. Does anyone know his opera The Olympians? Apparently there is one obscure (live) recording.andrew
Quote from: Mark on October 27, 2007, 07:22:03 AMIt's superb. I've got the Connoisseur 100 subscription, meaning I can (and do) download 100 tracks each month for just £19.99. That's insanely good value for downloads, and results in hauling in anywhere up to 14 albums every 30 days. In the last 12 months, I've grabbed around 180 CDs worth of music, I reckon.
Quote from: Anancho on October 27, 2007, 03:59:05 PMSo this looks almost too good to be true. Do I read it correctly that for a subscription of, as a starter, £8.99 I can download 30 albums (ie clicking the tab beneath the list that says "download all") or do I just get 30 tracks? Thank you for drawing this too my attention. It looks good. Some interesting modern/avant garde work there.
Quote from: Mark on October 27, 2007, 03:38:24 PMThe guy who reviews for BBC Music magazine as Calum MacDonald? Tell him from me that when he likes a CD, so do I. I'm no fan of reviewers in general, but I've come to trust his even-handed judgement and good musical sense.
Quote from: Guido on October 27, 2007, 04:18:35 PMDo the artists get the same amount of royalties?
Quote from: Dundonnell on October 27, 2007, 04:18:14 PMThe very same.
Quote from: Mark on October 27, 2007, 04:26:23 PMYou talking about eMusic? Yes: it's a well-established, legitimate business that doesn't leave copyright holders out of pocket, AFAIK. Of course, that means the record labels do okay out of it ...
Quote from: Dundonnell on October 27, 2007, 03:31:05 PMFascinating reading! Although I have only just started reading the posts on the old thread I have read the contributions regarding the Havergal Brian symphonies.As I think that I said before, I was at school with and was/am a close friend of Malcolm MacDonald, THE authority on Brian and the author of the splendid three volume set on Brian's symphonies. As teenagers we were fascinated by Brian(ok, maybe we were slightly odd teenagers!!) and talked endlessly about his music. I still have a copy of Malcolm's first list of all Brian's works, compiled when he was about 17. My own(incredibly modest) contribution was to have a letter published in 'The Scotsman' newspaper at around the same age demanding that Brian be performed in Edinburgh by the (then) SNO....as if!!!While a young schoolteacher I often bemused my classes by recording radio broadcasts of obscure classical music on a reel-to-reel taperecorderat the back of the classroom while the pupils were working! In that way I managed to acquire tapes of most of Brian's symphonies as they were broadcast by the BBC in the 1970s(through the inspired commitment and dedicated support of the composer Robert Simpson who worked for the BBC until he quit in disgust!).OH for a machine which would allow me to resurrect these tapes-stored in my attic!!!I certainly have favourites amongst the symphonies- Nos.1-4, 6, 7-10, 16 for example, but I also rather liked No.14(which Malcolm always considered one of the weakest, if not the weakest, Brian symphony). Yes, it is popmpous but I happen to like pompous music Marco Polo...WHY did you stop?? Why don't you re-start the series? After all, the label-or at least its 'cheaper sister' Naxos-has gone on to record VERY obscure repertoire since then! How many 19th century violin concertos do they intend to record?? If they can start a Luis Freitas Branco series(Portugese symphonist pre Joly Braga Santos) then SURELY they can return to HB??Sorry.....I could ramble away about Havergal Brian for hours as I did when I was 17/18
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