Favourite Top Ten Symphonies ... with a difference

Started by Mark, October 25, 2007, 04:15:10 PM

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Quote from: brianrein on October 26, 2007, 11:56:02 AM
I want to hear it too, but am content to wait until 2008-9, sometime during which Thomas Dausgaard will release the symphony in his ongoing (absolutely brilliant) Dacapo cycle. Until then, his 2 ,3, 4, 5, 12, 13, and 14 are already out. :)

Ah, thanks Karl ~ a mighty odd little work, too, as I recall.
Not to mention the outstanding 6th (on a disc with the 7th and 8th).

I admit I've shied off a lot of Langgaard because I find him more miss than hit, but the 4th and 6th get a lot of listening time here. Are any of the other symphonies in a similar vein to those two?
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

quintett op.57

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1 ) Liszt - Faust-Symphony / Berlioz - Symphonie Fantastique

2 ) Berlioz - Harold in Italy / Rachmaninov - Symphony No. 2

3 ) Nielsen - Symphony No. 3 / Berlioz - Romeo & Juliet / Hindemith - Symphonia Serena

4 ) Schumann - Symphony No. 4

5 ) Bruckner - Symphony No. 5

6 ) Beethoven - Symphony No. 6

7 ) Shostakovich - Symphony No. 7 / Pettersson - Symphony No. 7

8 ) Schubert - "Unfinished" Symphony

9 ) Bruckner - Symphony No. 9

10 ) Shostakovich - Symphony No. 10

Then, many Haydn's ;)

cx

Rough Draft:

01) Elgar / Hartmann / Sibelius / Walton
02) Brahms / Sibelius / Prokofiev
03) Arnold / Bruckner / Hartmann / Nørgård
04) Beethoven / Mahler / Nielsen / Sibelius
05) Beethoven / Bruckner / Mahler / Nielsen / Shostakovich
06) Hartmann / Prokofiev
07) Beethoven / Bruckner
08) Bruckner
09) Beethoven / Bruckner

Final:

01) Sibelius
02) Brahms
03) Hartmann
04) Mahler
05) Nielsen
06) Hartmann
07) Beethoven
08) Bruckner
09) Beethoven
10) Shostakovich
11) Pettersson

Mark

Tell you one thing that's struck me about the choices in this thread: the number of people who went for the Sibelius No. 2. I thought it was regarded as a bit of an old warhorse and that his Nos. 4, 5, 6 and 7 were the only ones folks generally admitted to liking. ;D

Papy Oli

that's a work in progress, as there still a lot of symphonies I have yet to discover (Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, early Dvorak, Prokofiev, RVW, Haydn, Brian, Nielsen, to name a few...)

1 - Mahler
2 - Mahler (Bruckner & Sibelius are also quite listened to, but not on the level of Mahler's)
3 - Gorecki
4 - Schumann (Brahms slightly behind)
5 - Beethoven (Mahler slightly behind)
6 - Mahler
7 - n/a
8 - Schubert / Bruckner
9 - Dvorak / Beethoven
10 - n/a
Olivier

Mark



Renfield

Quote from: Mark on October 26, 2007, 03:12:21 PM
Tell you one thing that's struck me about the choices in this thread: the number of people who went for the Sibelius No. 2. I thought it was regarded as a bit of an old warhorse and that his Nos. 4, 5, 6 and 7 were the only ones folks generally admitted to liking. ;D

Shame on them if they don't realise how special the Sibelius 2nd is! 8)

(Or not. I mean, I know I like it, and I know it represents Sibelius' art more than any other work of his, in my opinion. Perhaps the "old warhorse" stereotype originates from the people that only ever notice and pay attention to its last movement? ;D)

Mark

Quote from: Renfield on October 26, 2007, 03:22:57 PM
Shame on them if they don't realise how special the Sibelius 2nd is! 8)

(Or not. I mean, I know I like it, and I know it represents Sibelius' art more than any other work of his, in my opinion. Perhaps the "old warhorse" stereotype originates from the people that only ever notice and pay attention to its last movement? ;D)

I love it, too. My favourite of his seven, followed closely by Nos. 6, 7 and 3.

Papy Oli

Quote from: Mark on October 26, 2007, 03:19:10 PM
Nice to see Gorecki making it in for you, papy. ;)

:)

Well, let's put it that way : I have put in the list the symphonies i keep going back to very regularly with real enjoyment, within the ones I own... Maybe Beethoven's should be in 3, but the fact of the matter is that, besides his 5th and his 9th, the rest hasn't really registered with me... likewise for the 7th, neither his, nor anybody else's has yet reached a "status" of favourite of mine in terms of repeated plays. Ditto for the 10th, I have Ormandy's Mahler for this one, but not yet a regular either.

I should set myself a reminder to review that list in a year's time ...could be interesting to see the evolution. ;)
Olivier

hornteacher

Quote from: Mark on October 26, 2007, 03:26:13 PM
I love it, too. My favourite of his seven, followed closely by Nos. 6, 7 and 3.

I find #2 the most accessible of the seven, at least for me.

Kullervo

Quote from: Renfield on October 26, 2007, 03:22:57 PM
Shame on them if they don't realise how special the Sibelius 2nd is! 8)

(Or not. I mean, I know I like it, and I know it represents Sibelius' art more than any other work of his, in my opinion. Perhaps the "old warhorse" stereotype originates from the people that only ever notice and pay attention to its last movement? ;D)

I don't agree. I think he really came into his own with the third.

Mark

Quote from: papy on October 26, 2007, 03:33:08 PM
Ditto for the 10th, I have Ormandy's Mahler for this one, but not yet a regular either.

Not suggesting this year's BBC Proms performance was the greatest, but why not grab it for free anyhow? ;D

Mahler - Symphony No. 10

gmstudio

1. Rangstrom
2. Hovhaness
3. Lutoskawski
4. Melartin
5. Holmboe
6. Atterberg
7. Holmboe
8. Atterberg
9. Pettersson
10. Tubin



And yes, I'm serious.  :)   I haven't listened to the 'big guys' in a very, very long time.

Mark

A mention of Tubin. Interesting. He's among those composers whose work I've long been meaning to check out.

BachQ

Quote from: CS on October 26, 2007, 02:57:53 PM
Rough Draft:

01) Elgar / Hartmann / Sibelius / Walton
02) Brahms / Sibelius / Prokofiev
03) Arnold / Bruckner / Hartmann / Nørgård
04) Beethoven / Mahler / Nielsen / Sibelius
05) Beethoven / Bruckner / Mahler / Nielsen / Shostakovich
06) Hartmann / Prokofiev
07) Beethoven / Bruckner
08) Bruckner
09) Beethoven / Bruckner

Final:

01) Sibelius
02) Brahms
03) Hartmann
04) Mahler
05) Nielsen
06) Hartmann
07) Beethoven
08) Bruckner
09) Beethoven
10) Shostakovich
11) Pettersson

I agree that there isn't any competition for the #8 spot: Bruckner 8 all the way!

And I like the way you slipped in Pettersson 11!

Papy Oli

Quote from: Mark on October 26, 2007, 03:40:30 PM
Not suggesting this year's BBC Proms performance was the greatest, but why not grab it for free anyhow? ;D

Mahler - Symphony No. 10

cheers Mark, will check this one out !
Olivier

Mark

Quote from: papy on October 26, 2007, 03:50:58 PM
cheers Mark, will check this one out !

Should play okay: I captured and edited it myself. 0:)

gmstudio

I've added some "runners up" in italics...

Quote from: gmstudio on October 26, 2007, 03:44:23 PM
1. Rangstrom - Hashimoto, Martinu, Melartin, Pfitzner
2. Hovhaness - Norgard, Chavez, Rorem
3. Lutoskawski - Melartin, Martinu, Glass, Peterson-Berger
4. Melartin - Antheil, Langgard, Rangstrom
5. Holmboe - Alwyn, Greenberg, Melartin, Tubin
6. Atterberg - Fernstrom, Holmboe
7. Holmboe - Rautavaara, Pettersson
8. Atterberg -
9. Pettersson - Arnold, Atterberg
10. Tubin - Holmboe



And yes, I'm serious.  :)   I haven't listened to the 'big guys' in a very, very long time.

Papy Oli

Quote from: gmstudio on October 26, 2007, 03:54:32 PM
I've added some "runners up" in italics...


I have never heard any of the names in the first X, let alone the subs on the bench....  :-\ :-[

Ignorance WAS bliss....  ;D
Olivier