Bach Toccatas

Started by sidoze, November 05, 2007, 02:46:06 PM

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sidoze

I've been listening to the C minor Toccata quite a lot lately. Could I get a piano-only recommendation for the whole set, or for very good single performances which I could track down? I'm especially interested in the minor key ones. And I admit I haven't heard Gould play these yet  ::)

Don

Quote from: sidoze on November 05, 2007, 02:46:06 PM
I've been listening to the C minor Toccata quite a lot lately. Could I get a piano-only recommendation for the whole set, or for very good single performances which I could track down? I'm especially interested in the minor key ones. And I admit I haven't heard Gould play these yet  ::)

I'd have to go with Gould for a piano version; his adagios are so sublime.  However, Peter Watchorn on harpsichord is my favorite on whatever instrument.

XB-70 Valkyrie

The toccatas are probably among my least favorite Bach compositions, but I do like Feinberg's recording of the D maj, BWV 912. I also concur with the recommendation for Gould.
If you really dislike Bach you keep quiet about it! - Andras Schiff

val

My choice, in the piano, is Gould. One of his best moments in Bach (with the Inventions and the Goldberg Variations).

But Leonhardt in the harpsichord gave a superb interpretation of the Toccatas BWV 912 and 913 (RCA SEON)

sidoze

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on November 05, 2007, 04:15:22 PM
The toccatas are probably among my least favorite Bach compositions

I haven't heard all of them but would tend to agree. Thanks for the suggestions (even though everyone said Gould). Looks like I asked the question at the right time as it seems his recordings are being rereleased here.

FWIW, I was listening to the Argerich Cm Toccata on DG.

head-case

Quote from: sidoze on November 08, 2007, 02:24:26 PM
I haven't heard all of them but would tend to agree. Thanks for the suggestions (even though everyone said Gould). Looks like I asked the question at the right time as it seems his recordings are being rereleased here.

FWIW, I was listening to the Argerich Cm Toccata on DG.
Hewitt's set is an alternative.  In about 7 seconds someone will post that they are boring.  However I think Bach is never boring if it is played with clarity and taste (which it is by Hewitt).

sidoze

Quote from: head-case on November 08, 2007, 02:27:44 PM
Hewitt's set is an alternative.  In about 7 seconds someone will post that they are boring. 

Actually I had thought that very thing after finishing your first sentence  ;D Recently RMCR has held a discussion about her 'improved' Bach -- apparently much more pianistic, wider dynamics, fluctuations of tempo and so on. Might be an improvement for those of us who dislike her old recordings (can't say I've ever appreciated them). Will have to pass on this.

Josquin des Prez

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Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on November 05, 2007, 04:15:22 PM
The toccatas are probably among my least favorite Bach compositions

They are mostly juvenile pieces, and to be frank i never understood their popularity. They can be fun if you get a good performer though, and the fugues are really nice. 

Quote from: head-case on November 08, 2007, 02:27:44 PM
In about 7 seconds someone will post that they are boring. 

They are boring. Sorry.

Quote from: sidoze on November 05, 2007, 02:46:06 PM
I'm especially interested in the minor key ones.

I wouldn't sneer over the G major one. Actually, that's not even a toccata (not sure why it was bunched with the rest, maybe because the third movement is a fugue) but a concerto in the Italian style, and a very good one at that (considering it's an early work and all).

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Don on November 05, 2007, 02:54:22 PM
Peter Watchorn on harpsichord is my favorite on whatever instrument.

I prefer Menno Van Delft myself. For all it's faults, the brilliant set has some really interesting performers scattered about.

prémont

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on November 08, 2007, 02:52:33 PM
They are mostly juvenile pieces, and to be frank i never understood their popularity. They can be fun if you get a good performer though, and the fugues are really nice. 

They are written in Stylus phantasticus, and should be played accordingly. Most recordings play the phantastic element of the music down, and the result is boring.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.