Beethoven's minor works argued as counting against his major

[Josquin des Prez]

'Great' means many things.

No it doesn't. What ever gave you such an idea?

How many pieces by any composer compare with the 9th for God's sake??

Very few. You do realize of course something doesn't need to be great to be worthwhile, right?

[Rod Corkin]

No it doesn't. What ever gave you such an idea?

Great can mean 'Big' 'Important' 'Grand'; a description of area, mass or volume; or a response to something that meets with ones general approval (which was the context I was using), to name but a few things. Perhaps you need to improve your English? But even 'chips off the block' from Beethoven are better music than most other composers 'great' works, and that's in the context you mean it! So you see, even here 'Great' is a purely relative term.

[Josquin des Prez]

'Great' is a purely relative term.

You don't happen to be an Elgar fan, by any chance?

[Harry]

You don't happen to be an Elgar fan, by any chance?

He stop that, there was enough trouble about him, don't stir that up again.........

[Catison]

You know, all tonal music is bad because Karl von Schitten's Concerto Grosso no. 6 stinks, and it is tonal.

[Rod Corkin]

You don't happen to be an Elgar fan, by any chance?

A poor diversion 'Josquin', but never mind, Elgar serves me no purpose. Beethoven and Handel are the masters.

[karlhenning]

Beethoven and Handel are the masters.

And you can trust the Corkster, because he's always right, and he's a lot smarter than any of us.

[Rod Corkin]

And you can trust the Corkster, because he's always right, and he's a lot smarter than any of us.

Another poor diversion, but only to be expected from the local Mafia at GMG. So you have no opinion of Elgar yourself Mr Henning?

[BachQ]

This is the only site I can think of whereby members can routinely refer to other members comments as 'bullshit' and get away with it completely.

That's bullshit .......

[karlhenning]

That's bullshit .......

Oh, I am so reporting you to the mods, buster!

[Don]

Another poor diversion, but only to be expected from the local Mafia at GMG. So you have no opinion of Elgar yourself Mr Henning?

I'm the Don of Albuquerque and can attest to the fact that there's no mafia at CMG.  That doesn't necessarily mean that Corkin shouldn't be looking over his shoulder.  The guy on the subway might be coming to get him.

[BachQ]

Elgar serves me no purpose.

[comment withdrawn]

[johnQpublic]

So you have no opinion of Elgar yourself Mr Henning?

Karl has and so expresed them about twenty-thousand threads ago.

[Don]

A poor diversion 'Josquin', but never mind, Elgar serves me no purpose. Beethoven and Handel are the masters.

Do any composers, excepting Beethoven and Handel, serve any purpose for you other than dumping on them when you make comparisons to Beethoven and Handel?

[karlhenning]

In itself, an impoverished use at best to have for poor LvB and GFH.

[BachQ]

Do any composers, excepting Beethoven and Handel, serve any purpose for you other than dumping on them when you make comparisons to Beethoven and Handel?

The ability to "dump on" a composer is a very cathartic, necessary purpose ......... one of the most important purposes a composer can have ........

In this vein, Elgar is a fundamentally important composer who serves a vital, central function to GMG ........

[Josquin des Prez]

He's just trying to make us hate Beethoven and Handel the way he spoiled Elgar for us. Clever man.

[karlhenning]

He's just trying to make us hate Beethoven and Handel the way he spoiled Elgar for us.

It's the pink harp game.  His 2-D devotion repels more balanced music-lovers;  and then he can smugly feel superior to those of us who don't share his fervor for The Two Masters.

Whatever else one says about the Corkster, he's found a warm bubble to his liking.

[Rod Corkin]

Do any composers, excepting Beethoven and Handel, serve any purpose for you other than dumping on them when you make comparisons to Beethoven and Handel?

Must I assume you appreciate all composers in equal measure Don?

[Harry]

Is this kind of fighting necesarry I ask myself.......