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Florestan

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Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 21, 2016, 06:22:07 PM
Can you recommend a few European pianist/conductor/orchestra combination? By your comments you don't mean "European" as in the UK or Eastern European but rather Austrian/German.

I don´t know what Scion7 means but I do recommend this:



Excellent cycle all around. And you can´t get more Austrian than that.
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Que

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Quote from: Florestan on May 22, 2016, 02:01:34 AM
I don´t know what Scion7 means but I do recommend this:



Excellent cycle all around. And you can´t get more Austrian than that.

Perhaps not more Austrian, but certainly Austro-Hungarian (although we have recently learned that Salzburg wasn't part of the Empire in Mozart's time):  :D

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And it happens to be the best complete cycle on modern instruments I know....  8)

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Que on May 22, 2016, 02:33:05 AM
Perhaps not more Austrian, but certainly Austro-Hungarian (although we have recently learned that Salzburg wasn't part of the Empire in Mozart's time):  :D

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And it happens to be the best complete cycle on modern instruments I know....  8)
Close enough. The guy worked with Furtwangler early in his career so I guess he qualifies.

Fully Scion mentioned Ashkenazy earlier, neither he nor his orchestra is Austrian/German.

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Quote from: Que on May 22, 2016, 02:33:05 AM

And it happens to be the best complete cycle on modern instruments I know....  8)

I used to have the Anda set (still have two concertos on LP). It's good, but no match for Schiff/Vegh with the same orchestra.




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The minor key concertos are sublime, as is 21, 22, 23 and 27. Not wanting to sound too predictable, I would like to point out the excellency of KV450 aka no. 15 in B flat major. Amadeus introduced me to this work's delightfully catchy finale.
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Quote from: Florestan on May 22, 2016, 02:01:34 AM
I don´t know what Scion7 means but I do recommend this:



Excellent cycle all around. And you can´t get more Austrian than that.

Seconded; there's a new re-issue of that cycle out there: http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2015/12/best-recordings-of-2015-8.html

And frankly, Schiff-Camerata is terrific, too.

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Christian Zacharias & Lausanne on MDG is another very fine cycle.
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Many great sets. I like the controversial Sofronitzky set very much indeed. Perahia , Ashkenazy are great . This less known set is excellent too.

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I don't have a set, Perahia has been on my long-term shopping list for... a long term!

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aligreto

Quote from: Ken B on May 22, 2016, 01:45:54 PM
Many great sets. I like the controversial Sofronitzky set very much indeed. Perahia , Ashkenazy are great . This less known set is excellent too.

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My interest is piqued. What is the controversial issue with the Sofronitzky set if I may ask?

Ken B

Quote from: aligreto on May 23, 2016, 12:36:09 PM
My interest is piqued. What is the controversial issue with the Sofronitzky set if I may ask?

It is very, very vigorous, and sometimes there are a few ensemble or intonation problems. If Anda is at one end of the interpretative scale -- a prettifier -- then this is at the other end. I think both are great. Here I like the sense of Mozart pushing the bounds of what the orchestra and fortepiano are capable of that comes through. But if you want reflective poetry look elsewhere.

aligreto

Quote from: Ken B on May 23, 2016, 04:26:03 PM
It is very, very vigorous, and sometimes there are a few ensemble or intonation problems. If Anda is at one end of the interpretative scale -- a prettifier -- then this is at the other end. I think both are great. Here I like the sense of Mozart pushing the bounds of what the orchestra and fortepiano are capable of that comes through. But if you want reflective poetry look elsewhere.

My interest is even more piqued. Thank you for that  8)

king ubu

I like that Softonitzky set! With the Bilson/Gardiner, I feel we have two fine PI cycles.

Now if only Bezuidenhout would do one ...

Btw, what's word on Schoonderwoerd's sonatas cycle? Just finally got it and haven't really started listening yet.
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Florestan

Quote from: king ubu on May 24, 2016, 10:36:44 AM
Btw, what's word on Schoonderwoerd's sonatas cycle? Just finally got it and haven't really started listening yet.

If it´s the Schoonderwoerd of the infamous Beethoven PCs cycle, then I´ll pass, thank you.  ;D
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Quote from: Florestan on May 24, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
If it´s the Schoonderwoerd of the infamous Beethoven PCs cycle, then I´ll pass, thank you.  ;D

Since there are few similarities in the music, I doubt it will be relevant. We'll have to judge for ourselves all over again. :)

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Florestan

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 24, 2016, 11:49:53 AM
Since there are few similarities in the music, I doubt it will be relevant. We'll have to judge for ourselves all over again. :)

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That´s true as well, but once a traitor...  ;D

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Florestan on May 24, 2016, 11:55:42 AM
That´s true as well, but once a traitor...  ;D

Did you like his Beethoven?

I was tepid about the concertos. I didn't dislike them intensely, as some did, but I didn't replace my Gardiner/Levin with them either.  :-\  I have never heard any sonatas he may have done...

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Florestan

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 24, 2016, 12:03:21 PM
I have never heard any sonatas he may have done...

Given the way he tackled Beethoven´s piano concertos, I expect him to play them as sonatas for the left hand only, occasionally hitting some key with his nose...  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Quote from: king ubu on May 24, 2016, 10:36:44 AM
Btw, what's word on Schoonderwoerd's sonatas cycle? Just finally got it and haven't really started listening yet.

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Are you talking about Beethoven sonatas by Schoonderwoerd? Or Mozart? I never heard he was recording Beethoven solo music. I like his Mozart I think, and indeed the Beethoven op 15 and increasingly the Op 58, but I'm hardly a real connoisseur of Beethoven's orchestrated music.

It got my attention because I'd like to hear op 111/ii on a christofori.
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