Collecting Beethoven

Started by MN Dave, December 10, 2007, 07:19:50 AM

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Mark

Quote from: BorisG on December 11, 2007, 07:25:45 PM
Their 4 & 5 are heavenly, but the set is a tough swallow. :P

What you perhaps hear as 'shallow', others hear as lightly worn? I'm thinking particularly of the earlier Sonatas, which this pairing bring off beautifully without any hint of heavy-handedness or over-indulgence.

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Quote from: Bogey on December 11, 2007, 08:41:03 PM
Choral Fantasy Harnoncourt/COE (Warner Classics)-Just maybe my favorite Beethoven recording on the shelf.

Bogey, I have this one too and really enjoy it.  It also includes the Triple Concerto.  I'm a big fan of Harnoncourt.

Bogey

Quote from: ChamberNut on December 12, 2007, 04:11:25 AM
Bogey, I have this one too and really enjoy it.  It also includes the Triple Concerto.  I'm a big fan of Harnoncourt.

It's a beauty for sure.
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gmstudio

Anyone familiar with this set? 



It's only $18 on Amazon.  I've been collecting boxes of the Beethoven Symphonies recently and was wondering if it's worthwhile or not?   (Sets I currently have:  Szell, Muti, Karajan (60's), Norrington, Gardiner)

MN Dave

Quote from: gmstudio on December 12, 2007, 05:33:48 AM
Anyone familiar with this set? 

It's only $18 on Amazon.  I've been collecting boxes of the Beethoven Symphonies recently and was wondering if it's worthwhile or not?   (Sets I currently have:  Szell, Muti, Karajan (60's), Norrington, Gardiner)

Holden recommends it above.

gmstudio

Quote from: MN Dave on December 12, 2007, 05:38:53 AM
Holden recommends it above.

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MN Dave

Todd,

Is the Gulda the same as the set on Brilliant?

MN Dave


George

Quote from: MN Dave on December 12, 2007, 05:40:53 AM
Todd,

Is the Gulda the same as the set on Brilliant?

Same performance, though I have read the transfer is better on Brilliant.

MN Dave

Quote from: George on December 12, 2007, 05:49:43 AM
Same performance, though I have read the transfer is better on Brilliant.

Thanks, George. Good news.

jwinter

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Quote from: gmstudio on December 12, 2007, 05:33:48 AM
Anyone familiar with this set? 



It's only $18 on Amazon.  I've been collecting boxes of the Beethoven Symphonies recently and was wondering if it's worthwhile or not?   (Sets I currently have:  Szell, Muti, Karajan (60's), Norrington, Gardiner)

I think it's well worth your time.  It's the same orchestra as the famous Karajan, and recorded about the same time, so it's interesting to contrast & compare.  Very nice in it's own right, too.

I think a set from Vienna would compliment what you have nicely.  For an economical and easy on shelf-space intro, the Schmidt-Isserstedt/WP set of the symphonies & concerti is excellent -- the piano concerti with Backhaus are really superb.  Personally I like Karl Bohm with the same orchestra a bit more in the symphonies (his last 9th, while very slow, is my all-time favorite), but S-I is very refined, if a little mellow in spots.  Avoid Rattle -- very stilted, undercooked interpretations, not at all convincing IMO.  Bernstein/WP is very good, though not a top choice other than his 7th IMO.  I haven't heard Abbado/WP, although his Berlin CD set is pretty good, and the BPO DVD set from Rome is outstanding -- that's definitely what I would recommend if you're looking for DVDs.

For piano, my top overall choice is probably Gilels, and if I were looking for my first complete sonata set on a budget I'd go for Gulda on Brilliant.  Hard to imagine being truly satisfied with just one, though...

Hope that helps!  :)
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Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
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And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

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Holden

Quote from: gmstudio on December 12, 2007, 05:33:48 AM
Anyone familiar with this set? 



It's only $18 on Amazon.  I've been collecting boxes of the Beethoven Symphonies recently and was wondering if it's worthwhile or not?   (Sets I currently have:  Szell, Muti, Karajan (60's), Norrington, Gardiner)

This is the set I imprinted on in the LP era and when it finally came out on CD I was not disappointed (my ears did not deceive me) to hear it again. While no set is perfect, it is a very recommendable overall. The weaker works in the set are the 5th and 3rd IMO but they are still good interpretations. The top performance is a Pastoral to rival Bruno Walter - indeed they are very similar. An old fashioned but very well crafted 9th with excellent soloists is also a good recommendation. I also enjoyed the 7th, 4th and especially the 2nd. If the overtures come with this set then that's good news too.
Cheers

Holden