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Offline k a rl h e nn i ng

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #380 on: April 14, 2021, 04:33:17 AM »
I was with you until recently, having heard only Previn/LSO which is an unqualfiied dud. Then I heard Nezet-Seguin/The Philadelphians and changed my mind.

Interesting. Previn so often did so well.  Well, we all take the odd misstep.
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« Reply #381 on: April 14, 2021, 04:39:10 AM »
Interesting. Previn so often did so well.  Well, we all take the odd misstep.

It is always funny how sometimes a performer can do something exceptionally well and so you turn to something similar and then it is just mediocre.  As if they had an intense amount of passion and commitment for this one singular work and the other ones were by the numbers.

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #382 on: April 14, 2021, 05:42:00 AM »
Unpopular opinion time: I’m definitely not fond of Rachmaninov’s 1st. In fact, I don’t think it should’ve been rescued at all. >:D May the firing squads commence. ;D


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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #383 on: April 14, 2021, 05:53:30 AM »


I was going to get out my bazooka but you beat me to it  ;D

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« Reply #384 on: April 14, 2021, 05:58:15 AM »
I was going to get out my bazooka but you beat me to it  ;D

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I was looking for the same one you use Sarge, but I did not want to infringe on any patent rights.  :D

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #385 on: April 14, 2021, 06:05:51 AM »
I was with you until recently, having heard only Previn/LSO which is an unqualfiied dud. Then I heard Nezet-Seguin/The Philadelphians and changed my mind.

Honestly, I never heard one performance that has convinced me of it’s alleged greatness and I don’t think I could stomach listening to it again no matter how well Nezet-Seguin conducts it. Sorry, dear Rachmaninov fans!
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #386 on: April 14, 2021, 06:12:09 AM »
It is always funny how sometimes a performer can do something exceptionally well and so you turn to something similar and then it is just mediocre.  As if they had an intense amount of passion and commitment for this one singular work and the other ones were by the numbers.
Yeah! That always surprises me. It's especially true in the cases of composers with rather limited outputs - like a conductor who is really good in Elgar 1 but really bad in Elgar 2, or a Brahms cycle where one of the four is inexplicably way worse. It makes more sense in a case like Mahler or Shostakovich that maybe you don't love all 10-15 symphonies equally, but if you only love Rach 2 and 3, nobody is forcing you to do 1!

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #387 on: April 14, 2021, 06:17:23 AM »


I was going to get out my bazooka but you beat me to it  ;D

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Boy...this didn’t take long. ;P
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #388 on: April 14, 2021, 06:17:42 AM »
Honestly, I never heard one performance that has convinced me of it’s alleged greatness and I don’t think I could stomach listening to it again no matter how well Nezet-Seguin conducts it. Sorry, dear Rachmaninov fans!

We can still be friends.  :D

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #389 on: April 14, 2021, 06:58:36 AM »
I really like Taneyev's first.  :-[ :-X

I should give it a listen.

Back in 2007 someone recommended this Symphony and included a link to the JPC website...which led me to pull a paulb. I sampled the first 30 seconds and concluded it was repetitious crap ;D  So, yeah, I too should give it a proper listen.

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #390 on: April 14, 2021, 07:00:37 AM »
“Works of art creates rules; rules do not create works of art.” - Claude Debussy