Top 10 non-Great composers we love

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Dancing Divertimentian

#20
January 01, 2008, 08:06:50 PM
(Minus omitted)

Aram Khachaturian 9
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 13 + 1 = 14
Albert Ketelbey 9
Erich Korngold 11
John Tanvener 10
Arnold Bax 11
Arthur Sullivan 9
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 8


Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

gomro

#21
January 02, 2008, 03:40:44 AM


Aram Khachaturian 10
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 14
Albert Ketelbey 9
Erich Korngold 11
John Tanvener 9
Arnold Bax 11
Arthur Sullivan 9
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 8

(poco) Sforzando

#22
January 02, 2008, 05:08:03 AM
Bax - 1
Sullivan + 1
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Don

#23
January 02, 2008, 05:13:21 AM
Aram Khachaturian 10
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 15 +
Albert Ketelbey 9
Erich Korngold 11
John Tavener 9
Arnold Bax 10
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 7 -

Siedler

#24
January 02, 2008, 01:11:11 PM
More people should vote...

Aram Khachaturian 10
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 15
Albert Ketelbey 9
Erich Korngold 12 +
John Tavener 9
Arnold Bax 10
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 6 -

orbital

#25
January 02, 2008, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Siedler on January 02, 2008, 01:11:11 PM
More people should vote...

Yes, but I have not heard a single note from any of these composers, except for Respighi. And I only listened to his music twice on the radio this year  ;D

The new erato

#26
January 02, 2008, 01:17:17 PM
Zemlinsky is easily the "greatest" of this bunch. Some of these I know too little about - but what little I've heard of John Tavener seems facile and falsely revential. So I rate him below the composer of really modest ditties - Ketelbey; who really deserves to sink without a trace.

Aram Khachaturian 10
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 16 +
Albert Ketelbey 9
Erich Korngold 12
John Tavener 8 -
Arnold Bax 10
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 6

Pierre

#27
January 02, 2008, 02:06:42 PM
Forgot to start voting meself!

Aram Khachaturian 11 +
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 16
Albert Ketelbey 9
Erich Korngold 12
John Tavener 7 -
Arnold Bax 10
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 6

Quote from: erato on January 02, 2008, 01:17:17 PM
Zemlinsky is easily the "greatest" of this bunch. Some of these I know too little about - but what little I've heard of John Tavener seems facile and falsely revential. So I rate him below the composer of really modest ditties - Ketelbey; who really deserves to sink without a trace.

I'm not sure you've got the idea, which is to vote for your favourite 'poison' or 'indulgence' rather than the 'greatest'; rather akin to taking a fav soft-centred chocolate rather than something fibrous and nourishing.  :)

The new erato

#28
January 02, 2008, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Pierre on January 02, 2008, 02:06:42 PM
Forgot to start voting meself!

Aram Khachaturian 11 +
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 16
Albert Ketelbey 9
Erich Korngold 12
John Tavener 7 -
Arnold Bax 10
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 6

I'm not sure you've got the idea, which is to vote for your favourite 'poison' or 'indulgence' rather than the 'greatest'; rather akin to taking a fav soft-centred chocolate rather than something fibrous and nourishing.  :)

I've got the idea - and Zelinski still wins hands down - though I think I will have to add a + to Lehar tomorrow.

m_gigena

#29
January 02, 2008, 02:38:58 PM
Aram Khachaturian 12  (+)
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 16
Albert Ketelbey 8   (-)
Erich Korngold 12
John Tavener 7
Arnold Bax 10
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 6

btpaul674

#30
January 02, 2008, 04:01:23 PM

Aram Khachaturian 12
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 16
Albert Ketelbey 8 
Erich Korngold 12
John Tavener 7
Arnold Bax 10 + 1 = 11
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 9
Ferencz Lehar 6 - 1 = 5

Sydney Grew

#31
January 02, 2008, 04:19:15 PM
Aram Khachaturian 12
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 16
Albert Ketelbey 8 
Erich Korngold 12
John Tavener 7
Arnold Bax 11 + 1 = 12
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 9 - 1 = 8
Ferencz Lehar 5
Rule 1: assiduously address the what not the whom! Rule 2: shun bad language! Rule 3: do not deviate! Rule 4: be as pleasant as you can!

Don

#33
January 03, 2008, 07:41:33 AM
Aram Khachaturian 12
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 16 + 1 = 17
Albert Ketelbey 8
Erich Korngold 12
John Tavener 7
Arnold Bax 12
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 8
Ferencz Lehar 5 - 1 = 4

PerfectWagnerite

#34
January 03, 2008, 08:37:57 AM
What no Americans on the list???
How about Schuman, Barber, Ruggles, Harris for starters?

Don

#35
January 03, 2008, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on January 03, 2008, 08:37:57 AM
What no Americans on the list???
How about Schuman, Barber, Ruggles, Harris for starters?

Well, the list is mostly light and lame composers from the other side of the pond.  You could start a top whatever American Composers poll - or not.

m_gigena

#36
January 03, 2008, 01:47:06 PM
Quote from: Don on January 03, 2008, 10:19:10 AM
Well, the list is mostly light and lame composers from the other side of the pond.  You could start a top whatever American Composers poll - or not.

Also, you can be the one that kills Lehar, and add your Barber then.

Siedler

#37
January 03, 2008, 02:12:55 PM
Aram Khachaturian 12
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 17
Albert Ketelbey 8
Erich Korngold 13 +
John Tavener 7
Arnold Bax 12
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 8
Ferencz Lehar 3 -

Sydney Grew

#38
January 03, 2008, 03:41:11 PM
Aram Khachaturian 12
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 17
Albert Ketelbey 8
Erich Korngold 13
John Tavener 7 - 1 = 6
Arnold Bax 12 + 1 = 13
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 8
Ferencz Lehar 3
Rule 1: assiduously address the what not the whom! Rule 2: shun bad language! Rule 3: do not deviate! Rule 4: be as pleasant as you can!

Dancing Divertimentian

#39
January 03, 2008, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: erato on January 02, 2008, 09:28:38 PM
Can I haved your minus for my nest posting?

Sure - if you promise not to use it against Zemlinsky. ;D


Aram Khachaturian 12
Ottorino Respighi 11
Alexander Zemlinsky 17 + 1 = 18
Albert Ketelbey 8
Erich Korngold 13
John Tavener 6
Arnold Bax 13
Arthur Sullivan 10
Richard Rodney Bennett 8
Ferencz Lehar 3




Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach
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