Shostakovich Symphonies, Cycles & Otherwise

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foxandpeng

Quote from: JBS on August 20, 2024, 06:14:16 PMAs a set, definitely Kondrashin.
Separate recordings: Previn and Gergiev in 4, Rostropovich's LSO 8 and 11, Mitropolous in 10, Janssons in 12-15.

Appreciate this, thank you 😊 I've not heard the Mitropolous or Janssons at all, and confess to having excluded the Previn due to the inevitable difference in sound recording values. I will give them a go!
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foxandpeng

Quote from: Roasted Swan on August 20, 2024, 10:36:09 PMa bit of a left field recommendation are the 5 symphonies recorded by Paavo Berglund in Bournemouth - 5,6,7,10,11.  They are all in the Berglund "Icon" box but also various iterations and couplings.  Classic analogue sound & powerful performances.  In their time well regarded but never mentioned these days.......



Left field is good. Again, these would be new to me, which is great!
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George

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DavidW

Quote from: George on August 21, 2024, 04:08:24 AMAgreed!

Unfortunately, Fox's audiophilia will turn him away from the extraordinary set!

foxandpeng

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Quote from: DavidW on August 21, 2024, 06:10:11 AMUnfortunately, Fox's audiophilia will turn him away from the extraordinary set!

I will try to be good, honest! *crosses fingers*

I was listening to Haitink in RVW the other day, and despite the age and manner of recording, really enjoyed it. Preferences are good, as long as they don't become ruts, I think. I just don't want to listen through an ear trumpet from the other side of the concert hall, and although I know that is a massive exaggeration, I do prefer to feel as though I am sitting in the middle of the orchestra.

Today's standouts have probably been the Barshai and Sladkovsky (both in #3, because I am enjoying the almost back to back listening to the same work while I explore different interpretations and sonic experiences). Sladkovsky's pace may be a little slower, but Melodiya seem to kinda know what they are doing :P :D. His ominous build up to the percussion and brass at around the 11 and a half minute mark, and subsequent tension, does well for being a little more measured.

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Karl Henning

Quote from: foxandpeng on August 20, 2024, 04:34:50 PMPondering a traversal of the DSCH symphonies across 3 or 4 cycles.

Front runners amongst many possibilities are the Kitayenko, Barshai, Caetani and Kondrashin. There are so many cycles to choose from, so these comparators seem as good as many.

If anyone has any other burning recs, apart from Petrenko which has been my usual fare, then please do suggest away.
I'd swap Jansons in for Barshai.
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Roasted Swan

Quote from: foxandpeng on August 21, 2024, 06:26:57 AMI will try to be good, honest! *crosses fingers*

I was listening to Haitink in RVW the other day, and despite the age and manner of recording, really enjoyed it. Preferences are good, as long as they don't become ruts, I think. I just don't want to listen through an ear trumpet from the other side of the concert hall, and although I know that is a massive exaggeration, I do prefer to feel as though I am sitting in the middle of the orchestra.

Today's standouts have probably been the Barshai and Sladkovsky (both in #3, because I am enjoying the almost back to back listening to the same work while I explore different interpretations and sonic experiences). Sladkovsky's pace may be a little slower, but Melodiya seem to kinda know what they are doing :P :D. His ominous build up to the percussion and brass at around the 11 and a half minute mark, and subsequent tension, does well for being a little more measured.



I like the Sladkovsky set a lot - but that's probably because I'm programmed to hear these pieces played with at least a degree of old-school Soviet bite in the playing.....

foxandpeng

Quote from: Karl Henning on August 21, 2024, 06:34:30 AMI'd swap Jansons in for Barshai.

Noted, sir!

Quote from: hopefullytrusting on August 21, 2024, 06:52:38 AMMaybe it's just me, but I find sets like buying a booster of magic cards. I've always found it more cost effective to buy individual discs, as I do all my preliminary assessments on YouTube now.

I confess to being a streamer! My £20 or so each month seems a decent deal for all the access without any of the storage issues.

Quote from: Roasted Swan on August 21, 2024, 06:53:52 AMI like the Sladkovsky set a lot - but that's probably because I'm programmed to hear these pieces played with at least a degree of old-school Soviet bite in the playing.....

I do too, on the occasions I have listened. I think I'm probably still somewhat of a novice, however!
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George

Quote from: DavidW on August 21, 2024, 06:10:11 AMUnfortunately, Fox's audiophilia will turn him away from the extraordinary set!

Fortunately, audiophilia is not an incurable disease.
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

George

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Quote from: hopefullytrusting on August 21, 2024, 06:52:38 AMMaybe it's just me, but I find sets like buying a booster of magic cards. I've always found it more cost effective to buy individual discs, as I do all my preliminary assessments on YouTube now.

I tend to look for great sets and then, if necessary, supplement with individual discs. I find this to get me great recordings and is cost effective.
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

hopefullytrusting

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Quote from: foxandpeng on August 21, 2024, 07:37:52 AMI confess to being a streamer! My £20 or so each month seems a decent deal for all the access without any of the storage issues.

That is mostly me as well, but for those things I love I always try to get a physical copy.

Quote from: George on August 21, 2024, 08:09:21 AMI tend to look for great sets and then, if necessary, supplement with individual discs. I find this to gets me great recordings and is cost effective.

That makes sense. :-)

To contribute directly to this thread, my two favorite conductors for Shostakovich are Rozhdestvensky and Stokowski.

aukhawk

Quote from: foxandpeng on August 20, 2024, 04:34:50 PMFront runners amongst many possibilities are the Kitayenko, Barshai, Caetani and Kondrashin. There are so many cycles to choose from, so these comparators seem as good as many.

Both Caetani and Kondrashin tend towards the fastest tempi.  A good foil might be Wigglesworth, who tends to the slow end.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot