The Clip Quiz - Violin Concertos

[m_gigena]

FINISHED



Here are 47 fragments from 36 violin concertos, some of them are very easy, some are not. Actually, I kept the really hard ones for a possible next round.

Those interested in playing can the whole set here: http://www.mediafire.com/?f0xydyhx9xe    16.7Mb

Available in separate files (less heavy, for dial-up users and friendlier for those who might be discouraged by the fact of having to listen to 46 clips)
Clips 1-6    http://www.mediafire.com/?8zvuzydcn5t
Clips 7-15  http://www.mediafire.com/?0cmhyuzlysm
Clips 16-20 http://www.mediafire.com/?5og2ygdgy1x
Clips 21-29 http://www.mediafire.com/?fmxdgprykmp
Clips 30-36 http://www.mediafire.com/?axpnxpmdlmy

Clip 22

Each number 01, 02, 03, etc. is a violin concerto (or a work for violin and orchestra which does not qualify for the concerto label). Whenever you see an a/b subindex is because I thought an additional clip would be a bit of help with that work. The 0Xa file is supposed to be more complicated than the 0Xb, so I suggest you to ignore the b-subscripted files in the first round of listenings.

Please wait at least 12 hours before you post your answers... to avoid timezone handicaps.

01 - Anton Arensky (Erato)
02 - Tor Aulin (Brian)
03 - Beethoven (Brian)
04 - Emil Bohnke (Erato)
05 - Anton Rubinsteni (Erato)
06 - Schnittke's 4th (Maciek)
07 - Bruch's first. (Brian)
08 - Adolf Busch (Erato)
09 - Sibelius (Brian)
10 - Edison Denisov: Partita, pour violon et orchestre; d'après la partition n°2 en ré mineur BWV 1004 de Bach
11 - Dvorak (Brian)
12 - Elgar (Jezetha)
13 - Ermanno Wolf-Ferrari (Erato)
14 - Tchaikovsky (Erato)
15 - Guerra-Peixe: Concertino para violino e orquestra de cámara
16 - Henze: Vitalino radoppiato. (Edward)
17 - Stanley Wolfe: Violin concerto
18 - Tikhon Khrennikov: Violin concerto Nº 1 (Erato)
19 - Korngold (Jezetha)
20 - Lalo: Violin concerto Nº 1 (Erato)
21 - Lalo's Symphonie Espagnole (Erato)
22 - Charles Auguste de Beriot: Violin concerto Nº 1 "Military"
23 - Mendelssohn (Brian)
24 - Miaskovsky (Erato)
25 - Nielsen (Luke)
26 - Marc O'Connor: Fiddle concerto
27 - Brahms (Brian)
28 - Saint-Saens 3rd (Maciek)
29 - Britten (Erato)
30 - Schoeck (violinconcerto)
31 - Robert Schumann: Violin concerto (Que)
32 - Shostakovich 1st (Erato)
33 - Chausson: Poeme (Erato)
34 - Bernard Tan: Violin concerto
35 - Alexander Glazunov
36 - Karlowicz: Violin concerto in A Major, Op. 8 (Brian)

[lukeottevanger]

As I expected, I only recognised the easy ones, at least at a first listen (maybe one or two of the ones I knew count among slightly more obscure ones, but not to any great degree). I won't spill the beans, though.

I'm posting just to say that some of the files were corrupted - for a few I got only half a second of distorted sound, or for a couple of others the file played at double speed and up the octave. There might be a variety of causes for this, and at least some of them might be at might end, but I thought you should know. 

[m_gigena]

Thanks for playing, and for the information on the files. I just downloaded complete.rar and checked all the files, they are working fine here. I use Winamp 5.35, with the DirectSound v2.47 audio output plug-in (out_ds.dll). If I get more reports I'll recompress the files and make a new upload.

[m_gigena]

11 downloads so far. 

[Brian]

This was tons of fun! All of the music was absolutely terrific, and I knew almost none of it. And the mystery and intrigue were absolutely fascinating, a real brain workout. Also a great recipe for discovering some glorious new stuff  Thank you Manuel!!

01, 02, 04, 05, 06, 08, 10, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - no clue, though some of these are FABULOUS!

02 - Probably Hungarian. Joachim? Hubay?
03 - I actually got this one (it's pretty famous and so is its composer!) but want to not say what it is, just to find out how many other users will be able to glean the answer from three seconds of playing time. But if you need proof that I can tell what it is ... Google the phrase "Franz Clement"
07 - shameful that it took me 20 seconds to figure out this one! I recognized it and drew a blank  Bruch One, though.
09 - Sibelius can't hide that easily!  Is that Leonidas Kavakos? I don't like this violinist's sound.
11 - Dvorak! Yay!
14 - ONE SECOND? One of my recordings of this concerto, with a certain I. K. on Naxos, lasts 35 min 28 sec
16b - I feel like I've heard this before.
19 - the beginning of this took my breath away, whatever it is.
21b and 22a are missing.
23 - heh, I had this piece after 3 seconds. A professor at my university, Mr Cho-Liang Lin, made the recording of this Felicitous masterwork which I grew up listening to. 
26 - must be Stanford or Herbert or something. This is too Irish! 
27 - this wouldn't be the Brahms would it? I haven't listened to the piece in over a year.
36 - Karlowicz. What a lovely piece 

Thank you again Manuel for this fabulous quiz! It was a real treat. Now I'm going to listen to the complete Karlowicz work. I look forward to learning what other listeners know better than I. 

P.S. Where's the Atterberg work that I "solved" last year?  Or maybe it was included and I didn't notice it ... 

[m_gigena]

I'm glad you are enjoying it. That, and drawing attention to some less known violin masterpieces, are the whole point of the game. 

21b and 22a are missing.

It's a label mistake, 22b should be renamed as 21a, and there's no 22 then. 

[m_gigena]

23 - heh, I had this piece after 3 seconds. A professor at my university, Mr Cho-Liang Lin, made the recording of this Felicitous masterwork which I grew up listening to.

A very, very well known work. But I don't think this is what Lin recorded. 

[Brian]

A very, very well known work. But I don't think this is what Lin recorded. 

Is this some sort of different edition or something? I wasn't aware of any particularly odd performance traditions for the concerto, although this violinist does play that one phrase at 0:19-0:20 (and its immediate repetition) differently than I'm used to.

The Lin recording is out of print, if that's what you meant.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

12 - Elgar
19 - Korngold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsYUuGo8XA&feature=related

[m_gigena]

12 - Elgar
19 - Korngold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsYUuGo8XA&feature=related

Right. The Elgar comes from a concert given by Shaham, Slatkin and the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra in 2006. While the Korngold, my favorite non-Heifetz recording of the work, is played by Znaider; from a concert in London last november.

Thank you very much for the video. I'll try to crack it.

[m_gigena]

I found the real 22th clip, now downloadable from the first post in this thread.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I found the real 22th clip, now downloadable from the first post in this thread.

Hm, I listened to 22, and I don't know the work, but I seem to recognize the style of the composer. Not to spoil it for the others - does his name start with an L?

[m_gigena]

Hm, I listened to 22, and I don't know the work, but I seem to recognize the style of the composer. Not to spoil it for the others - does his name start with an L?

I'm sorry for confusing. The clip inside the rar file named as 22b should be renamed as 21b. And the real 22 is  the one that can be downloaded separately. The name of the composer of the clip 22 doesn't start with an L.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I'm sorry for confusing. The clip inside the rar file named as 22b should be renamed as 21b. And the real 22 is  the one that can be downloaded separately. The name of the composer of the clip 22 doesn't start with an L.

Hm, pity... (Btw - it isn't confusing; you were very clear a few postings earlier.)

Johan

[m_gigena]

Is this some sort of different edition or something? I wasn't aware of any particularly odd performance traditions for the concerto, although this violinist does play that one phrase at 0:19-0:20 (and its immediate repetition) differently than I'm used to.

Daniel Hope now plays the original version from the Mendelssohn Concerto, and he is recording it for CD release soon. That explains the different phrases, and if you compare with other recordings you will notice the final figurations of the violin are also different.

[m_gigena]

02 - Probably Hungarian. Joachim? Hubay?

He was from other part of Europe. Violinist and conductor; for some time he was the first violin in one of the most important orchestras in his country. He also founded a quartet, named after himself.

26 - must be Stanford or Herbert or something. This is too Irish! 

Festive yes, but not Irish.

[m_gigena]

Hm, pity... (Btw - it isn't confusing; you were very clear a few postings earlier.)

I was confused then. But I can only explain why after the answers were given.

[m_gigena]

I can see there have been more downloads of the files. Pop in and play... just throw in some names, impressions and ask for clues.

[lukeottevanger]

Had a quick skim through the thread and it looks like the few that I was able to identify at a first listen - Elgar, Sibelius, Mendelssohn, Dvorak, Bruch and Beethoven

But I didn't see 25 identified - that's the only extra one I was able to get - Nielsen.

[lukeottevanger]

However, I've discovered that if I play the clips which I thought were 'corrupted' through Quicktime rather than WMP they tend to work, so I might come back and give the whole lot a proper listen through later.

You'll have to provide a list of correctly answered/still to be guessed ones for us, Manuel, 'mystery scores' style!