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Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11280 on: June 12, 2017, 10:38:43 AM »
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« Reply #11281 on: June 12, 2017, 10:59:24 AM »
Thanks, Jeffrey. I am very pleased to know that my efforts have encouraged some people to explore Haydn who may perhaps not have done, or so they tell me.  It makes the time and effort worthwhile.

La vera constanza is indeed excellent. Seriously, doesn't it surprise you just a little that such fine music has only been recorded that one time? 
We had the chamce to see La vera costanza fully staged here in Madrid some 7 or 8 years ago, conducted by Jesús López-Cobos, and it was a real  treat. I invited several friends, as I was celebrating my birthday around those days, and they (all newcomers to opera) were delighted.

Che burrasca! Che tempesta!  :)
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11282 on: June 12, 2017, 11:28:30 AM »
We had the chamce to see La vera costanza fully staged here in Madrid some 7 or 8 years ago, conducted by Jesús López-Cobos, and it was a real  treat. I invited several friends, as I was celebrating my birthday around those days, and they (all newcomers to opera) were delighted.

Che burrasca! Che tempesta!  :)

Cool! I haven't seen any in person, the only ones I know for sure have been staged (since I have them on DVD) are Orlando paladino and Il mondo della luna. Both are all jazzed up and modern, but the music, of course, is just as it should be. I would very much like to see nearly any of them. :)

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11283 on: June 20, 2017, 04:27:39 PM »
I went looking, hoping you were wrong. But you are correct.  There is no complete recording beyond the Dorati.

But there is this, released this past January


ASIN B017OK6656

So I'm listening to this right now, it is a very nice performance, very good singing. Not used to listening to these arias without any recitatives, but I could get used to it if I had to!  :)  The La Vera... has a lot more clarity than I was getting out of the Dorati. Modern sound recording can't be beat. ;)

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11284 on: June 25, 2017, 06:53:02 PM »
While traversing the Hogwood Haydn symphonies set, I have come to Symphony 72. What solo instrument is duetting with the flute in the Andante? I don't have a score, and my ears are not sure if it's a viola.

Whatever the answer, it's an exquisite movement. As is the slow movement of 13, with its cello concertante.
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« Reply #11285 on: June 25, 2017, 09:37:30 PM »
It is a solo violin that has its own stave throughout the movement.
(If not in the US one can access the score at IMSLP)
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« Reply #11286 on: June 26, 2017, 10:48:31 AM »
It is a solo violin that has its own stave throughout the movement.
(If not in the US one can access the score at IMSLP)

Thanks.  Then whatever instrument Hogwood's violinist uses was rather dark toned.  At one point I thought it might be a 'cello.

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« Reply #11287 on: June 26, 2017, 10:48:40 PM »


Get the whole thing on MP3 for $9.99.

D'oh went to snap it up and got the message "download not available in your country". Australian $$s not good enough for them?

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« Reply #11288 on: June 26, 2017, 11:10:40 PM »
Most mp3 bargains are US only. (At least I have had that experience.)
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« Reply #11289 on: June 27, 2017, 03:25:41 AM »
D'oh went to snap it up and got the message "download not available in your country". Australian $$s not good enough for them?

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Wow, that sucks! Sorry to hear that, I had no idea.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #11290 on: June 27, 2017, 03:31:41 AM »
I'm grateful for the reminder . . . I've paid for the set, but have not yet succeeded in downloading my purchase . . . .
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« Reply #11291 on: June 27, 2017, 03:32:43 AM »
Thanks.  Then whatever instrument Hogwood's violinist uses was rather dark toned.  At one point I thought it might be a 'cello.

Yes, it really is playing near the bottom end of its range in several places, like right at the beginning. It was interesting to go way back to ~1763 and hear this work again, which is more famous for its 4 horns than for that wonderful Andante! Thanks for the nudge. :)

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« Reply #11292 on: June 27, 2017, 03:34:57 AM »
Most mp3 bargains are US only. (At least I have had that experience.)

At least, they are only certain to be available in their country of origin. I have tried a couple of times to buy download specials from Amazon UK and had similar experiences. Always discouraging, especially since one can hardly tell what the rationale might be. :-\

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« Reply #11293 on: June 27, 2017, 03:48:05 AM »
At least, they are only certain to be available in their country of origin. I have tried a couple of times to buy download specials from Amazon UK and had similar experiences. Always discouraging, especially since one can hardly tell what the rationale might be. :-\

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I suspect it has to do with licensing.
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« Reply #11294 on: June 27, 2017, 04:44:08 AM »
I suspect it has to do with licensing.

Oh yes, no doubt about it. It's just that the licensing rules don't make sense. But then, what copyright rules do?  ::)

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« Reply #11295 on: June 27, 2017, 09:19:23 AM »
I suspect it has to do with licensing.

It is a very broad problem. The copywriter holder gives a certain entity the license to sell content in one country only. The worst comes for things kept "in the cloud" since they will typically cut off you access to content if you find it necessary to change your country designations. Had that problem with iTunes and Amazon.

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« Reply #11296 on: June 27, 2017, 01:08:25 PM »
Oh yes, no doubt about it. It's just that the licensing rules don't make sense. But then, what copyright rules do?  ::)

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Makes about as much sense as it would for our local supermarket to say "sorry you can't buy those, you're wearing the wrong colour sweater".

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« Reply #11297 on: June 30, 2017, 10:07:17 PM »
Welcome to the online world, where the illusion of a single globe often collapses when you try to consume media. There are still in fact a couple of hundred separate countries.

Comfort yourself with the knowledge that buying a CD from overseas is much easier and will deliver better sound than most MP3s (a format, designed for small file size when internet speeds were far slower, which really should die).
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« Reply #11298 on: July 02, 2017, 04:09:17 PM »
Well, it took me nearly as long to get through England as it took Haydn in real life!  But now we are back in Vienna, and what a difference a year or two can make!  Have a look at what Haydn had to settle down into when he got home, he might have wished he stayed in London! :)

Umm, there's a guy hanging out there... :-\

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Alright, how many Symphony 54s are there?
« Reply #11299 on: July 08, 2017, 06:06:23 PM »
Going through the Hogwood Haydn set, I have come to Symphony 54 in G: First version. With an extra Minuet/Trio in C and extra Finale in C, both parenthetically dated to 1773-74.  Symphony 54 in G: Second version appears three CDs down the road.

There are, of course, no pertinent liner notes included, so I am left befuddled. There are two or three symphonies numbered 54, and no explanation of why.

Enlighten me, please!