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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12420 on: July 01, 2020, 12:22:42 PM »
Well, unlike many people, I rarely listen to an entire opus at a time, I like to pick 1 or 2 from a few different ones and listen to 6 that way instead of a set.  But since Op 20 is getting some well-deserved attention, I will jump on the bandwagon and say that my single favorite disk of Haydn quartets is this one, with Jaap Schroeder playing first violin:



But as with most music, I am far more pleased to have a good recording of the music than I am to have a specific performer. I know the Kodaly's do an excellent job, because they were my first set of everything except Op 76. If I had never gotten any others I would still be pleased to have the entire set of quartets. :)

As much as I seem to like Op. 20 I'm not planning to get other performances. I hear absolutely nothing wrong with Kodály. I paid 8.39 euros total delivered for these discs and I enjoy them very much. This might be my best CD purchase of the year! It would be idiotic to doubt the enjoyment by "dreaming" about other releases of these works. Happiness is knowing when you are winning and know to stop reaching higher with a higher cost. If I spent say 30 euros for Op. 20 to have a better performance/recording, I would render these Naxos discs "worthless" (8.39 euros wasted) and I would have spent ~5 times more for a little better. Not cost-effective at all. I am winning now.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12421 on: July 01, 2020, 12:44:14 PM »
As much as I seem to like Op. 20 I'm not planning to get other performances. I hear absolutely nothing wrong with Kodály. I paid 8.39 euros total delivered for these discs and I enjoy them very much. This might be my best CD purchase of the year! It would be idiotic to doubt the enjoyment by "dreaming" about other releases of these works. Happiness is knowing when you are winning and know to stop reaching higher with a higher cost. If I spent say 30 euros for Op. 20 to have a better performance/recording, I would render these Naxos discs "worthless" (8.39 euros wasted) and I would have spent ~5 times more for a little better. Not cost-effective at all. I am winning now.

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12422 on: July 01, 2020, 10:58:37 PM »
Although #2 and #4 are my favorite pieces in op.20, I didn't really like the Quartetto Esterházy disc. It is "old time HIP" not for the faint of heart and overall too rough and pioneering for me.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12423 on: July 02, 2020, 01:45:02 AM »
 Always on the lookout for good versions of these particular Haydn symphonies.



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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12424 on: July 02, 2020, 07:22:44 AM »
Although #2 and #4 are my favorite pieces in op.20, I didn't really like the Quartetto Esterházy disc. It is "old time HIP" not for the faint of heart and overall too rough and pioneering for me.

Gotta figure, it's on Seon produced by Wolf Erichson (RIP). Guess that's why it works for me: I'm old-time HIP too, but on top of that, I am a great fan of Schroeder, and he plays beautifully on this disk. Anyway, I'm not recommending it to anyone, not even 71dB who can't think in any other terms, I'm just saying it's MY favorite string quartet disk. :)

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12425 on: July 02, 2020, 07:26:18 AM »
Always on the lookout for good versions of these particular Haydn symphonies.



#morninglistening to #Haydn #symphonies 6-8 w/ #OrfeoOrchestra under #GyörgyVashegyi on #ACCENTrecords /
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Jens, is that the same orchestra that Michi Gaigg also conducts? Or a different Orfeo (Baroque?) Orchestra? If it is, they are very fine players indeed!  I have many versions of those works, wouldn't hurt my feelings to have another...  :D

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12426 on: July 02, 2020, 09:39:06 AM »
Jens, is that the same orchestra that Michi Gaigg also conducts? Or a different Orfeo (Baroque?) Orchestra? If it is, they are very fine players indeed!  I have many versions of those works, wouldn't hurt my feelings to have another...  :D

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Different band! These are a Hungarian band.
Recorded at Esterhaza... to which I once biked on a lovely little bicycle vacation.

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12427 on: July 02, 2020, 11:32:08 AM »
Different band! These are a Hungarian band.
Recorded at Esterhaza... to which I once biked on a lovely little bicycle vacation.

Ah, I see. Well, that was not a totally inappropriate venue, and certainly one which I would love to be able to say I had biked to! :)

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12428 on: July 10, 2020, 01:34:02 AM »
I'm enjoying listening to some of the Op.20 Quartets played by the Doric Quartet.



Well - 'enjoying' - well yes I am because, after all, it is Haydn.  ;D

But these are not 'cosy' or 'salon' Haydn - these are Performances sounding to my ear as from a much later date.  Played largely without vibrato, but with great attack and verve and presence.
Anyway, I'll just mention that this set of all six of Op.20 is currently available at a rather good price from Presto - £8 for 96/24 downloads - great value - only for a couple more days.
I'm very happy to add these to my collection but they wouldn't be my top choice (Chiaroscuros).
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12429 on: July 31, 2020, 06:30:23 PM »
Just listened to a piece completely unknown to me- Hob XXIVa:11 - Die Erwählung eines Kapellmeisters, in a performance conducted by Gennady Rozhdostvensky.

The booklet says it's probably not by Haydn. I'm just wondering if anything recent has come to light about its authorship. The music would probably fit rather well into a Mozart opera.

Here's a Youtube version, without the recitatives.

https://youtu.be/eHEXpn-8lwE

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12430 on: August 01, 2020, 05:45:56 AM »
I borrowed this disc from a friend:



While this is an enjoyable disc, there was some kind of "lack of warmth" to it imo. I need to listen to it more...
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12431 on: August 01, 2020, 06:52:28 PM »
I borrowed this disc from a friend:



While this is an enjoyable disc, there was some kind of "lack of warmth" to it imo. I need to listen to it more...

I like that album artwork. Don't know anything about the music. Most of the Haydn symphonies I know are in the 80+ range.

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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12432 on: August 01, 2020, 07:00:39 PM »
I like that album artwork. Don't know anything about the music. Most of the Haydn symphonies I know are in the 80+ range.

Cover Photo: Haydn's birthplace at Rahran by G. Gander. These Symphonies are from early 1770's and are to my liking.
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Re: Haydn's Haus
« Reply #12433 on: August 01, 2020, 10:37:56 PM »
The name of the village or town is Rohrau

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohrau,_Austria
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