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Quote from: Lisztianwagner on September 24, 2022, 10:20:53 AMAlthough I don't listen to his music very often, Haydn remains a very special composer to me, since he was the first composer, along with Mozart, with whom I started appreciating classical music. I have Karajan's recording for the Paris and London Symphonies, but I would like to get a complete box set of Haydn's symphonies. Any suggestion or recordings you would recommend?
Quote from: George on September 25, 2022, 07:51:29 AMIf Haydn is a very special composer to you, I suggest looking around for this wonderful, yet OOP set: https://www.discogs.com/release/23477054-Haydn-Hogwood-Br%C3%BCggen-Dantone-Haydn-107-First-Complete-Cycle-On-Period-Instruments-Der-Vollst%C3%A4ndig
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 31, 2022, 08:49:16 AMProbably an encore. 🤠🤓
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on September 25, 2022, 07:21:18 AMThank you very much for the suggestions, those look all interesting options; considering all the aspects, the Fischer/Brilliant box set could be a good choice. If his recordings of the Paris Symphonies and the Londons weren't exceptionally good as it was pointed, I could supplement them with the Karajan set I've already got, his Haydn is very fine in my opinion.
Quote from: MusicTurner on September 25, 2022, 09:48:37 AMI can't imagine that you'll feel that you've gone wrong with acquiring the Fischer set, maybe supplemented with some other recordings later ... a lot of the set is really rewarding and excellent, and actually, the late symphonies aren't bad either, IMHO.
Quote from: vers la flamme on September 24, 2022, 02:49:22 PMDorati/Philharmonia Hungarica and Adam Fischer/Austro Hungarian Haydn Orchestra are both supposed to be quite good. Both Hungarians, go figure.
Quote from: Jo498 on October 14, 2022, 09:27:29 AMI have heard only about 1/4 of the Dorati and all/most of the Fischer and I can't understand how they should be "unlistenable. They have flaws but not crippling ones.
Quote from: Brian on October 16, 2022, 06:39:27 PMUltimately, Mathew claims, Haydn's historical trajectory compels us to ask what we might usefully retain from the cultural and political practices of European modernity- whether we can extract and preserve its moral promise from its moral failures. And it demands that we confront the deep economic histories that continue to shape our beliefs about music, sound, and material culture."
Quote from: Brian on October 16, 2022, 06:39:27 PM"Analyzing the final three decades of Haydn's career, this book uses the composer as a prism through which to examine urgent questions across the humanities."With this ambitious book, musicologist Nicholas Mathew [of UC Berkeley] uses the remarkable career of Joseph Haydn to consider a host of critical issues: how we tell the history of the Enlightenment and Romanticism; the relation of late-eighteenth-century culture to nascent capitalism and European colonialism; and how the modern market and modern aesthetic values were-and remain-inextricably entwined."The Haydn Economy weaves a vibrant material history of Haydn's late career, extending from the sphere of the ancient Esterhazy court to his frenetic years as an entrepreneur plying between London and Vienna, to his final decade as a venerable musical celebrity, where he witnessed the transformation of his legacy by a new generation of students and acolytes, Beethoven foremost among them. Ultimately, Mathew claims, Haydn's historical trajectory compels us to ask what we might usefully retain from the cultural and political practices of European modernity- whether we can extract and preserve its moral promise from its moral failures. And it demands that we confront the deep economic histories that continue to shape our beliefs about music, sound, and material culture."
Quote from: Spotted Horses on October 14, 2022, 09:03:07 AMI had both and found both unlistenable, for different reasons. I currently have Dennis Russell Davies' set, which is lovely except for the nuisance of applause at the end of each symphony.(I am a huge Dorati fan, but his set was recorded at breakneck pace and I get the feeling that they performances are underrehearsed (if rehearsed at all). The Fischer was recorded by Nimbus and I find the audio unacceptably reverberant.)
Quote from: Daverz on October 17, 2022, 02:08:31 PMAs the Fischer series went on, Nimbus got better at recording in that hall. Most of the recordings are quite good. A set with poor recordings of the London's is somewhat crippled, I'll admit.
QuoteI think the balances on the Dorati set are sometimes off, but that may be the fault of the conductor. I don't hear a problem with the basic sound quality.
Quote from: Jo498 on October 17, 2022, 11:48:19 PMThe sound is generally good. As they recorded >100 symphonies apparently in less than 4 years (and two different venues (all but 49-72 were done in the same church, though, despite the Oetker concert hall in Bielefeld where this first batch was done having a very good reputation, IIRC, and with a handful of sound engineers), there will be some run-throughs and the sound and balances don't seem to be consistent. E.g. brass and timpani are very present in 93 and 95 but quite subdued in others. The strings also sound fuller in some etc.Of the big Haydn projects of the 70s (McCabe piano sonatas, Aeolian Quartets, I think Vienna Haydn Trio? for the trios, all from Telefunken or Decca, and some others, like Märzendorfer's symphony recordings) the Dorati symphony recordings were the only one to become a standard/classic.
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