Haydn's Haus

[JBS]

Back on the main topic--I have Fischer and DRD. Don't have Dorati, Marzendorfer, or the Naxos compilation.
I have the Decca HIP in the form of its parent sets, Bruggen and Hogwood, plus the filler from Dantone.
Of all the other sets mentioned, I think I have all of them except Pinnock and Fey.  (I have some individual CDs of the latter.) The Solomons set is en route to me from Japan.
Among MI London sets my favorite has always been Solti.

[Jo498]

Russell Davies has long been oop. jpc has the Fischer right now for 40 EUR or so but it might not worth ordering from outside EU.
Of course (often free) streaming completely changes the situation because one can always close gaps easily.
This was very different when I got interested more seriously in Haydn 25 years ago. After buying single discs my first medium sized box was the "Sturm & Drang" with Pinnock (maybe still the easiest recommendation for these works as it has great sound, very good, "central" interpretations, i.e. a somewhat larger and less "historical" sounding ensemble than Hogwood and Solomons and usually not the repeats of development and recap that make some pieces a bit lengthy).
For a while I thought I could close gaps with Naxos, Goodman etc. but when the Fischer box appeared at Brilliant's price tag (I think it was also about 40 EUR or even less around 2002?) I got it and didn't regret it although the late symphonies are not competitive and the rest is also sometimes a mixed bag. But overall it's great value and I am more often than not positively surprised when I listen to a disc from that box.

[Brian]

Yeah I picked it up because I didn't liked the Londons in the Fischer set, so I took it as kind of a replacement.

I really enjoyed the sound samples from this set - that orchestra sounds really good in neoclassical repertoire on Naxos so it makes sense they sound so good in Haydn. But last time I asked about the set here, nobody had heard it. Now you have and you're tempting me!

[Daverz]

How about Colin Davis with the Concertgebeow for the Londons?  I need to at least give this set a closer listen.  I usually choose from a mix of Szell, Bernstein, Klemperer and Jochum recordings.

[Karl Henning]

How about Colin Davis with the Concertgebeow for the Londons?  I need to at least give this set a closer listen.  I usually choose from a mix of Szell, Bernstein, Klemperer and Jochum recordings.

I like them.

[DavidW]

How about Colin Davis with the Concertgebeow for the Londons?  I need to at least give this set a closer listen.  I usually choose from a mix of Szell, Bernstein, Klemperer and Jochum recordings.

Davis/RCO was my introduction to the London symphonies!  I have fond memories.

[Madiel]

Davis is what I still have for the London sets.

[Jo498]

I have not heard them but the Davis used to be a standard "traditional" recommendation for the London set together with Jochum. Davis recorded a few pre-London as well, at least 82, 83, 86, 88, 91, 92.

[Spotted Horses]

No idea if it's still available, but I fetched in the DRD set for a song ($25) back when

That is the only complete I have, and I like it (except for the annoying applause). I had Dorati but sold it (no regrets) despite generally being a huge fan of Dorati.

[DavidW]

I'm sure this has been discussed to death but what are your favorite piano trio recordings?  For a complete set I like Trio 1790 and the Beaux Arts Trio.  Outside of the box this is my favorite:

[Skogwald]

I'm sure this has been discussed to death but what are your favorite piano trio recordings?  For a complete set I like Trio 1790 and the Beaux Arts Trio.  Outside of the box this is my favorite:

I like Van Swieten Trio the best. But they are some of the greatest works in the repertoire and all these you mentioned give me immense joy, too.

[Mandryka]

Haydn - Piano Trios - I own the first 3 box sets shown below (8 to 10 discs/box) - I use to have some of the Beaux Arts recordings, available in the box shown but decided that I liked the modern instrument group Haydn Trio Eisenstadt better, but a personal call since the revered older trio is often held up as the standard for these works.  Trio 1790 & the Van Swieten Trio are period instrument groups; I've been listening to selective discs from my 3 boxes for a few days and have decided to keep all - personally, I feel that one MI & one PI set should be part of a Haydn collection, but that's just me; now, should I re-add the Beaux Arts Trio, probably not but others would likely disagree.  Reviews attached for those interested.  Dave

     

Have just discovered Trio Eisenstadt - and I am very impressed by what I'm hearing, more so than BAT in fact.

[Jo498]

The Eisenstadt was somewhat inconveniently issued in two mixed boxes around the anniversary 2009, then later it was one big box shown above, and I believe earlier issues (on another label) had been on single discs, always mixing early/late/known/lesser known.
I missed the boxes because back then I had just got the Brilliant box and a few separate discs and was not sufficiently invested to get another box. Eventually, I picked up two of the single issues. They are good but I was no sufficiently excited to search more, especially as the boxes were oop, hard to find. I probably never heard any of the Beaux Arts.

[Brian]

The other day I was thinking about how Prokofiev's First Symphony is a tribute to Haydn of sorts, his imagining of what it would sound like if Haydn wrote a symphony in the early 20th century. And I was thinking about the theory that Beethoven's Eighth Symphony is a tribute or homage to Haydn's examples.

Then I found this Wiki list of theme-and-variations works by other composers, using themes by Haydn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_variations_on_a_theme_by_another_composer#H

This all got me curious if other examples exist. Any more good Haydn tribute music out there by later composers? Whether direct variations or more in the indirect style of Prokofiev's creation?

[Mandryka]

Debussy's Hommage, Bernhard Lang's The Anatomy of Disaster, Scott Fields CD called Haydn, Michael Finnisssy's 2nd String Quartet, 


@Brian

[Karl Henning]

[lordlance]

What's the most virtuosic or 'Sturm und drung' of the Haydn piano trio and which fortepiano recording do you recommend of it? 

[Jo498]

There is no trio like the "Farewell" or "Mourning" symphony, as Haydn didn't write any at that time (for over 10 years). They are usually not very dramatic pieces but the closest to "Sturm & Drang" might be the e minor Hob xv:12 or f# minor Hob xv:26

The most virtuosic might be the late C major Hob xv:27 but although I find the famous "gypsy trio" Hob xv:25 a bit overrated, the "rondo all'ongarese" finale is a riot and probably as appealing as any other trio. 

HIP recordings: Trio 1790/cpo for all/any or (for 27, they only recorded one disc) Levin & friends on Sony Vivarte

[Mandryka]

What's the most virtuosic or 'Sturm und drung' of the Haydn piano trio and which fortepiano recording do you recommend of it?

The HIP one I like most is this


https://www.discogs.com/release/12130762-Haydn-J%C3%A9r%C3%B4me-Hanta%C3%AF-Philippe-Couvert-Alix-Verzier-Trios

[Brian]

This finally arrived:



I'm flipping through the booklet and astonished at how star-studded a cast the band was. In the orchestra: Derek Solomons, Elizabeth Wallfisch, Pavlo and Lisa Beznosiuk, Roy Goodman, Monica Huggett, Anthony Halstead, Crispian Steele-Perkins - just about all the stars of the English HIP movement at that time. Wow! No wonder they sound so good.