Haydn's Haus

[Gurn Blanston]

Not a very few, at present. Having done the rounds, it seems I can get one for about £12 including postage (£10 if I order from the US), and the Hogwood is about the same. I'll wait a bit and keep my eye on things - I've spent far too much this month, taking advantage of immediate bargains.

Footnote: Just been listening to samples: I now realise how famous the trumpet concerto is! I just had never known what it was.

Oh, over here, I bought it brand new about a year ago for $8, which is perhaps £3? So it has taken a bit of a leap in the intervening time. Probably in demand due to readers here...   



Edit: about 5, I see (4.96).

[Bogey]

A most favored recording.

[Gurn Blanston]

A most favored recording.

Hi Bill. All new players to me. Are they a rather compact group, or a large, cathedral-filling one? Nice work in either case.

[Bulldog]

(original cover?)

Actually, it's the cover on the left that's the original.  The one on the right is part of Harmonia Mundi's 2009 Haydn Edition.  Personally, I much prefer the cover art on the original.

[Gurn Blanston]

Actually, it's the cover on the left that's the original.  The one on the right is part of Harmonia Mundi's 2009 Haydn Edition.  Personally, I much prefer the cover art on the original.

Me too. I am guessing that's Esterhazy Palace. It's a nicer view than the one from a distance that you usually see.

Leo, yes, I was certainly going to bring that one up too. I have the one on the right, BTW. Nice music too; imagine having your own composer write you a "welcome home" cantata that is performed by your own musicians. It's good to be the Prince...

[Bogey]

Hi Bill. All new players to me. Are they a rather compact group, or a large, cathedral-filling one? Nice work in either case.

Seem decent size.  Liner notes not in English.

[Bogey]

Actually, it's the cover on the left that's the original.  The one on the right is part of Harmonia Mundi's 2009 Haydn Edition.  Personally, I much prefer the cover art on the original.

No question.

[Gurn Blanston]

Seem decent size.  Liner notes not in English.

I thought French was a second language in Colorado...   Well, maybe I'll find something on the interwebs about them.





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Now playing:
Malcolm Bilson (Fortepiano - 1784 Stein copy) - Hob 16_49 Sonata in Eb for Keyboard 2nd mvmt - Adagio e cantabile

[Bogey]

I thought French was a second language in Colorado...   Well, maybe I'll find something on the interwebs about them.





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Now playing:
Malcolm Bilson (Fortepiano - 1784 Stein copy) - Hob 16_49 Sonata in Eb for Keyboard 2nd mvmt - Adagio e cantabile

The key for info that I would like is their make up in 1979....if you can find it.

[Leon]

Actually, that disk is generally available for a very few pounds, well worth it. There is another version that I haven't heard because it seemingly can't be purchased, and which is reputedly of a very high standard, but I always try to rec stuff you can actually buy, and this is the one to get. I do like the Hogwood version too, but I think to at least some degree, the authenticity is provided by the obvious struggle that the player has with the instrument, which he (to his credit) overcomes, but not without an ass-kicking along the way.

I would like to hear this one since it has gotten good comments in a variety of places:


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[Gurn Blanston]

I would like to hear this one since it has gotten good comments in a variety of places:


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Yes, that's the one that I had in mind when I wrote that, but I couldn't remember the fellow's name. When I last looked it up, there were only a couple of copies there, starting at $40 or so. I'll follow your link and see if it's a better situation now.



EDIT: How odd, now seems generally available, even priced well. It doesn't appear to be a re-release...

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Now playing:
Malcolm Bilson (Fortepiano - 1785 Walter copy) - Hob 16_52 Sonata in Eb for Keyboard 2nd mvmt - Adagio

[Bogey]

Missa Cellensis in honorem, H 22 no 5 "Cäcilienmesse"
Conductor:  Frieder Bernius
Orchestra/Ensemble:  Württemberg Chamber Orchestra Heilbronn



Probably should have waited until Nov. 22 for this one....but hey,.....

[Gurn Blanston]

Missa Cellensis in honorem, H 22 no 5 "Cäcilienmesse"
Conductor:  Frieder Bernius
Orchestra/Ensemble:  Württemberg Chamber Orchestra Heilbronn



Probably should have waited until Nov. 22 for this one....but hey,.....

Another 'Violin Babe', eh, Bill? We already have a thread for that.  



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Malcolm Bilson (Fortepiano - 1785 Walter copy) - Hob 16_52 Sonata in Eb for Keyboard 3rd mvmt - Finale: Presto

[Bogey]

Another 'Violin Babe', eh, Bill? We already have a thread for that.  



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Malcolm Bilson (Fortepiano - 1785 Walter copy) - Hob 16_52 Sonata in Eb for Keyboard 3rd mvmt - Finale: Presto

Here you go:

The martyrdom of Cecilia is said to have followed that of her husband and his brother by the prefect Turcius Almachius.[5] The officers of the prefect then sought to have Cecilia killed as well. She arranged to have her home preserved as a church before she was arrested. At that time, the officials attempted to kill her by smothering her by steam. However, the attempt failed, and she was to have her head chopped off. But they were unsuccessful three times, and she would not die until she received the sacrament of Holy Communion.
Cecilia survived another three days before succumbing. In the last three days of her life, she opened her eyes, gazed at her family and friends who crowded around her cell, closed them, and never opened them again. The people by her cell knew immediately that she was to become a saint in heaven.[2] When her incorruptible body was found long after her death, it was found that on one hand she had two fingers outstretched and on the other hand just one finger, denoting her belief in the trinity.

[Bogey]

Kind of cool:

Saint Cecilia (Latin: Sancta Caecilia) is the patron saint of musicians and Church music because as she was dying she sang to God.

[Bogey]

Gurn,
Where might I find an English translation of this mass?

[Gurn Blanston]

Gurn,
Where might I find an English translation of this mass?

Go here    http://www.chandos.net/Details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%200667

and on the left side of the page, click "Download booklet PDF"

All the masses have the same words though, I don't see anything that is specific to this particular mass. Only the music was changed to protect the innocent...




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Paul Badura-Skoda - Hob 16_46 Sonata #31 in Ab for Keyboard 1st mvmt - Allegro moderato

[Bogey]

Go here    http://www.chandos.net/Details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%200667

and on the left side of the page, click "Download booklet PDF"

All the masses have the same words though, I don't see anything that is specific to this particular mass. Only the music was changed to protect the innocent...




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Now playing:
Paul Badura-Skoda - Hob 16_46 Sonata #31 in Ab for Keyboard 1st mvmt - Allegro moderato

You'd da man, Gurn!

Looks as though the mass is in honor of and not about St. Cecilia.  Does this sound right to you?

[Gurn Blanston]

You'd da man, Gurn!

Looks as though the mass is in honor of and not about St. Cecilia.  Does this sound right to you?

Absolutely.   I can't remember precisely how feast day masses were geared towards a particular honoree. But I don't doubt that Haydn turned some aspect of the music so that it was specific to her. He wrote a 2nd Cecelia mass also, in 1782. That would be Hob 22:8. It is actually (well, no surprise really, many years newer) a bit more free-flowing and condensed too. I prefer it, but hey, that's just me.

FYI, in the Hickox Complete Masses, the exact same text is used, and it represents the words for all 13 masses. So from first to last there is no change at all.

[Bogey]

Absolutely.   I can't remember precisely how feast day masses were geared towards a particular honoree. But I don't doubt that Haydn turned some aspect of the music so that it was specific to her. He wrote a 2nd Cecelia mass also, in 1782. That would be Hob 22:8. It is actually (well, no surprise really, many years newer) a bit more free-flowing and condensed too. I prefer it, but hey, that's just me.

FYI, in the Hickox Complete Masses, the exact same text is used, and it represents the words for all 13 masses. So from first to last there is no change at all.

I just put that set on my wish-list prior to reading your post. Wise move?