Haydn's Haus

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I too, have this version and can happily recommend it  :)
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The new erato

Quote from: Todd on November 18, 2008, 03:27:26 PM
Modern (and HIP): Quatour Mosaiques

Older, traditional: Budapest Quartet (on United Archives)
Please note that United Archives reputedly are going out of business due to imminent changes in French copyright law; so move quickly!

val

My choice: the Mosaiques Quartet.

In second place: the Amadeus Quartet.

Herman

IMO it's useless in this kind of repertoire to recommend one recording as the one that nails it.

Haydn's opus 76 are major works, something like Beethoven 9. You can have various recordings and you really need to try and catch every live performance of these pieces you can.

Three great recordings: Budapest on United Archives, Tatrai on Hungarton, and Mosaiques for a HIP perspective.

Bulldog

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on November 18, 2008, 03:46:47 PM
Modern (and HIP): Quatour Mosaiques

Older, traditional: Tatrai Quartet (Hungaroton)


That's also how I see it.  The Tatrai would be my first choice.

Peregrine

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Daverz

The Panocha Quartet also did a very good set of Op. 76.

One of the most delightful Haydn quartet recording I've ever heard is the Hungarian Quartet doing 76/2.  I wonder if they did the whole set.

dirkronk

Opus 76 has been VERY lucky in having many fine proponents and performances on record through the years. Among early/mono recordings, the Hollywood Quartet's take on 76/2 and the Budapest in 76/3 and 4 come to mind. I have the Hungarian Quartet and the Quartetto Italiano doing some of these, as well. Like several others here, I'm a fan of the complete set by the Tatrai--their rugged and obvious joy in the music never fails to stir the blood--and I recommend it, but have to say that if the OP wants more recent sonics, he may do somewhat better with the Mosaiques as a first pick. I have NOT heard this ensemble in these Haydn numbers, but I'll have to admit that I've enjoyed just about everything I HAVE heard them do.

FWIW,

Dirk

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Christi on November 27, 2008, 04:22:29 PM
Is he a good writer ?

Well, I certainly think so. He is regarded as the father of the modern symphony and string quartet. And the things he developed in sonata style were influential for the next 150 years. He was the most famous and highly regarded composer of his time, even more than Mozart, who was one of his good friends. You should listen to one of his symphonies and see. :)

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Quote from: Christi on December 04, 2008, 04:43:08 PM
What's a good String quart. he did ?
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Lethevich

Does anybody have any suggestions for good un-HIP/big band recordings of the Sturm und Drang symphonies? Paris and London sets by people like Jochum and Bernstein are easy to come by, but the other works seem not to be.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Lethe on December 28, 2008, 06:22:22 AM
Does anybody have any suggestions for good un-HIP/big band recordings of the Sturm und Drang symphonies? Paris and London sets by people like Jochum and Bernstein are easy to come by, but the other works seem not to be.

On modern instruments, you could do a hell of a lot worse than Fischer. If you can find the original Nimbus recordings (which is what I have, not the Brilliant), they are rather grouped together. These works didn't achieve prominence back in the day of the "Big Band", so I doubt that (other than Dorati) there are many versions to choose from. :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on December 28, 2008, 07:14:10 AM
On modern instruments, you could do a hell of a lot worse than Fischer. If you can find the original Nimbus recordings (which is what I have, not the Brilliant), they are rather grouped together. These works didn't achieve prominence back in the day of the "Big Band", so I doubt that (other than Dorati) there are many versions to choose from. :)

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A shame :( Some other performances I like are by Antonio Janigro with the Symphony Orchestra of Radio Zagreb on Vanguard Classics. The playing isn't as completely ropey as the name might imply, and the performances are quite spirited. I have a disc of 47-49, but there also seems to be an OOP duo of 44-49. The versions themselves, in part, seem compromised by out of date/inaccurate editions, but the music shines through.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Lethe on December 28, 2008, 08:31:23 AM
A shame :( Some other performances I like are by Antonio Janigro with the Symphony Orchestra of Radio Zagreb on Vanguard Classics. The playing isn't as completely ropey as the name might imply, and the performances are quite spirited. I have a disc of 47-49, but there also seems to be an OOP duo of 44-49. The versions themselves, in part, seem compromised by out of date/inaccurate editions, but the music shines through.

Well, I don't think you would be disappointed by the Fischer at any rate. Probably the only one you would find recorded in the old days was #45, which had a "story" attached and so was popular even early on. Everyone in the world did the London's, of course, but it is rare to find any old #44's, for example. It's a pity you don't like period instruments, there are at least a good handful to choose from, like Tafelmusik/Weil, and Pinnock of course. My experience with Pinnock in Mozart leads me to believe that if he does Haydn the same way, you would be hard put to tell it from a big band. In comparison with AAM/Hogwood, they sound like the Philharmonia! :)

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Lethevich

Actually, silly me, I forgot the totally obvious Scherchen! I own that box, I should listen to it pronto :D I am currently struggling to financially justify buying the Haydn box on Brilliant despite wanting it a lot, but I will probably end up going for it at some point - I'll be able to give the Fischer a try then :)
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karlhenning

I am still in the [very gradual] process of making my way through the Fischer set.  It's always a rewarding listen, I just have other priorities made for me betimes  :)

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Lethe on December 28, 2008, 08:56:44 AM
Actually, silly me, I forgot the totally obvious Scherchen! I own that box, I should listen to it pronto :D I am currently struggling to financially justify buying the Haydn box on Brilliant despite wanting it a lot, but I will probably end up going for it at some point - I'll be able to give the Fischer a try then :)

Indeed. I didn't think of that either. I knew he did quite a bit of Haydn, but not exactly what. Curious how you find it. As for Fischer, it is practically being given away these days. I hope you will have the wherewithal to bring it home some day soon. Lots of enjoyment in one little box. :)

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Lethevich

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on December 28, 2008, 09:09:09 AM
Indeed. I didn't think of that either. I knew he did quite a bit of Haydn, but not exactly what. Curious how you find it.

From what I recall I was favourably biased going in just because he performed the earlier ones. The SQ is reasonable and playing kind of creaky, but there is a vitality there under the muck, which isn't too diminised by the lack of full repeats. It's not horribly slow either.

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