Haydn's Haus

[Karl Henning]

Ah, didn't realize you already had it, thought it was freshly ordered. Cool.

Now, as for freshly ordered, I've pulled the trigger on the  Opp.64, 76, 77 box by the Quatuor Mosaïques.

[Gurn Blanston]

Now, as for freshly ordered, I've pulled the trigger on the  Opp.64, 76, 77 box by the Quatuor Mosaïques.

Ah, splendid. There should be no regrets there!  Lovely playing by the QM, and the box is an irresistible bargain.

[Karl Henning]

Ah, splendid. There should be no regrets there!  Lovely playing by the QM, and the box is an irresistible bargain.

Aye, and I fancy that I may well turn to them for the Opp. 20 & 33, too.

At which point, one could argue that I had saved money if I had got a complete set, but . . . I don't mind not being a compleatist here, and I rather prefer having a mix of performers.

Really digging this . . . in the first place, it's wonderful to find a trove of great quartets, on their own merits.  Secondly, this experience is enriching my already established appreciation for (e.g.) Mozart's "Haydn" Quartets . . . 'tis truly a tide which lifts all boats.

[Gurn Blanston]

Aye, and I fancy that I may well turn to them for the Opp. 20 & 33, too.

At which point, one could argue that I had saved money if I had got a complete set, but . . . I don't mind not being a compleatist here, and I rather prefer having a mix of performers.

Really digging this . . . in the first place, it's wonderful to find a trove of great quartets, on their own merits.  Secondly, this experience is enriching my already established appreciation for (e.g.) Mozart's "Haydn" Quartets . . . 'tis truly a tide which lifts all boats.

Well, the QM specifically don't have a 'complete set' anyway, so if you get 20 & 33, you will have their entire contribution excepting the 7 Last Words. For Op 9, 17, 50, 54, 55, 71 & 74 you have to look elsewhere anyway, and that you have already done. I think your classical quartet collection is coming along swimmingly well.

[Karl Henning]

Well, the QM specifically don't have a 'complete set' anyway, so if you get 20 & 33, you will have their entire contribution excepting the 7 Last Words.

Oh, I was curt . . . I believe that the Opp. 20 & 30 box includes Die sieben lezten Worte, as well . . . a piece I shan't mind having (I expect) by both the Quatuor Mosaïques & the Amadeus Quartet.

For Op 9, 17, 50, 54, 55, 71 & 74 you have to look elsewhere anyway, and that you have already done. I think your classical quartet collection is coming along swimmingly well.

Yes, this is a listening foray which I should not have foretold, a year ago.

[SonicMan46]

Any recommendations on a PI set of the London symphonies?  Gurn has previously recommended Minkowski's recording, so I'm aware of that one.  I'd like to see what the other options are.

Hi GeoDude - I have about 3-4 recordings of the London Symphonies, including the Minkowski release; however, the one below is the recording that I would like to obtain - unfortunately $60+ at Amazon (Japanese release I presume) - I do own Kuijken w/ this band in Symphonies 82-92 (released on 2 inexpensive VeritasX2 offerings) - will be interested to see if others may be suggested (or if the set below is available ELSEWHERE for a decent price!) -

[SonicMan46]

Gurn, you haven't steered me wrong yet.  I'll look around for the Kuijken material.

Hi Geo Dude - appears you also posted the same question in the 'Haydn Haus' to which I responded - hard to understand why DHM cannot release those Londons at a decent price but hard to predict the music industry's motives at this time?  Dave

[Karl Henning]

. . . I do own Kuijken w/ this band in Symphonies 82-92 (released on 2 inexpensive VeritasX2 offerings) . . . .

Oh, this wicked, wicked thread!

— I mean . . . Thank you for the alert!  I did find the 88-92 Veritas two-fer, for a song.

[Elgarian]

Oh, this wicked, wicked thread!.

Agreed. It is the epitome of evil.

[mc ukrneal]

Agreed. It is the epitome of evil.

It's because you come to Haydn here!! Don't blame the thread!

[SonicMan46]

Oh, this wicked, wicked thread!

— I mean . . . Thank you for the alert!  I did find the 88-92 Veritas two-fer, for a song.

Karl - LOL!     Yep, those two twofers are just $6 each on the Amazon MP - a must for Kuijken fans!  Now, why the H*&% doesn't DHM re-release those Londons in a bargain box?      Dave

[Leon]

I don't know where these works fit into Gurn's chronology, but I am enjoying them and especially this recording of them very much these last two days:

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[Gurn Blanston]

I don't know where these works fit into Gurn's chronology, but I am enjoying them and especially this recording of them very much these last two days:

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Those are from 1784. Very entertaining, nice flute trios with no pretensions. They are as follows;

IV:6      D                   1st mvmt arr. from Il mondo della luna (opera), no.12 ; 2nd mvmt uses no.15
IV:7      G                   1st mvmt uses no.24
IV:8      C                   2nd mvmt uses no.25
IV:9      G                   arr. of 3 movts from Baryton trio #97
IV:10      A                   3rd mvmt arr. from no.23
IV:11      D                   3rd mvmt arr. from no.14

This was another case of Haydn 'recycling' his music. The opera "Il mondo de la Luna" (The World on the Moon) probably never got the play it deserved. The music from it is especially nice, and is displayed here in these trios, which were especially composed for London at a time when Haydn was first seriously considering going there. No one there will have ever heard an opera that was specifically composed for Esterházy anyway, so there lovely arrangements for Violin & Flute (or 2 Flutes) & Cello fit the occasion perfectly.

I really would love to pick up that disk you show, Arnold. I have a couple of very nice versions, but the Kuijken's always please me best. This one goes to the wish list.

[kishnevi]

Now, as for freshly ordered, I've pulled the trigger on the  Opp.64, 76, 77 box by the Quatuor Mosaïques.

Listening to those Op. 64 performances even as I type now (I have them as individual CDs, sort of--the Op. 76 comes as a 2 CD "box")--I can't really begin to say how wonderful they are.  I can't imagining anyone who likes Haydn or chamber music not liking these recordings.

[Karl Henning]

. . . This was another case of Haydn 'recycling' his music.

Speaking of recycling, O Gurn . . . do any of these appear in pf trio guise in the Van Swieten Trio box?

Listening to those Op. 64 performances even as I type now (I have them as individual CDs, sort of--the Op. 76 comes as a 2 CD "box")--I can't really begin to say how wonderful they are.  I can't imagining anyone who likes Haydn or chamber music not liking these recordings.

Thanks for the encouraging confirmation, Jeffrey . . . I'm certainly digging the quartets with MI forces.

[Gurn Blanston]

Speaking of recycling, O Gurn . . . do any of these appear in pf trio guise in the Van Swieten Trio box?

Thanks for the encouraging confirmation, Jeffrey . . . I'm certainly digging the quartets with MI forces.

Sorry, Karl, sadly (or not) not. They do appear here, however:

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[chasmaniac]

Why, Gurn, why have the Festetics 4s not been set in a fat, cheap box for me to add to my bulging collection? It isn't fair!

[TheGSMoeller]

We all are well acquainted with "The Philosopher", "Farewell", "The Bear", "Drumroll", etc... but what about those lonely but equally delightful symphonies that go nameless? 

I'm curious to some of GMG'rs favorite un-named symphonies.

[chasmaniac]

#95 in Cm is my alltime favourite.

It's hard to remember numbers alone when there are so many of them!

[TheGSMoeller]

#95 in Cm is my alltime favourite.

It's hard to remember numbers alone when there are so many of them!

Great choice, one of the best from the London symphonies.

Another great Cminor is #52, a great finale just as with #95.