Started by Gurn Blanston, April 06, 2007, 04:15:04 PM
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 24, 2007, 03:55:41 AMHarry,It may have seemed that I was directing that at you, but I wasn't. This set has been discussed in depth here before, and several people have said that the London's suck so bad that they wouldn't have the set. Which is not only untrue, but most unfortunate, since, as I said, they not only don't suck, they are merely the weakest in the set, and then, only in comparison to all the fine versions around. I would love to see a complete HIP cycle, but it seems that every effort ends up beached.
Quote from: RebLem on April 24, 2007, 12:14:17 AMAt $61.49 for 4 CDs, the ArkivMusic price, it damn well ought to be satisfying. Szell/Cleveland recorded the first 6 Londons, and they were issued on CD, but there are hard to find these days. I would recommend the Jochum set as a generally satisfying and interpretively moderate set. Another good set of some of them is a Klemperer box; this is BIG, old fashioned, full orchestra Haydn, but he does divide 1st and 2nd violins, which is a big point in their favor. And his Sym 102 will just make you jump out of your seat.I haven't heard the Solti set. Has anyone here heard it? I am thinking about maybe getting it.
Quote from: Steve on April 24, 2007, 06:06:30 AMGlad to hear that the Fischer set is receiving praise here on the forum. After some sampling, I've decided to add it to my shopping cart today. Harry, you've reccomended the Dorati set - in your opinion, would it be helpful to have both the Fischer and Dorati recordings, or would one suffice? Are you familiar with the Jochum? I generally enjoy his renditions, and so I will be looking to aqiuire those also. Anyone have a tip on where to find the Jochum/Dorati renditions?
Quote from: Harry on April 23, 2007, 11:43:00 AMUrgent call for Andy!
Quote from: BorisG on April 23, 2007, 03:27:35 PMI have some reservations also. That listeners should quit Haydn symphonies after the Oxford.
Quote from: Harry on April 24, 2007, 02:30:34 AMLets say from Symphony No. 1-88, there is no problem at all, the best performances you could wish, both in sound and in interpretation!My principal concern is with 89-103, but the problem is not that big, that I would not buy it again.Not sound, because that is good! But those were recorded first, and Fischer was clearly searching the right mould. You can hear that mostly in the menuets, very stiff upper collar, as with all the menuets from Dorati. And he tends to take the Allegro's and Presto to slow, not always mind, but he does. Furthermore, he just wants to be grand in the name symphonies, and that tends to sound somewhat overblown.So reading your wishes, Fischer would do just fine.That said the Fischer set is a must for all Haydn admirers, and I would not like to be without it.Have the Dorati set too, and that is also a must for me!
Quote from: RebLem on April 24, 2007, 12:14:17 AMI haven't heard the Solti set. Has anyone here heard it? I am thinking about maybe getting it.
Quote from: alkan on April 24, 2007, 06:45:35 AMDavidW, I do remember that there was a recording by the Salomon Quartet and the Academy of Ancient Music Chamber Ensemble (Archiv) of symphs 94, 100 and 104. I heard it on the radio once and it was wonderful. Unfortunately it has been OOP for years. I too would be very happy to find a copy of this. I just checked Amazon, but drew a blank.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 23, 2007, 06:25:11 PMI have 94, 95 & 101-104 with Collegum Musicum 90 / Hickox. I will give them another listen (it's been 6 months or so) and get back to you on it.
Quote from: Que on April 07, 2007, 07:54:03 AMGurn, please tell me: are those performances good? Because I believe they have been reissued as a 2CD set! €20 at jpc, that's not bad for a small (tiny ) label...
Quote from: SonicMan on April 25, 2007, 04:52:43 PMGurn - sorry about posting on the Piano Trios, but this 'edited' post got BURIED in the 'listening thread', and may be more appropriate here, anyway - I've just gone through the first 5 discs (of 10) of the Haydn Piano Trios w/ the Van Swieten Trio - Bart van Oort on the fortepiano (after Walter, 1795) along w/ several violinists, cellists, & a flautist (3 of the pieces in the set) - all period instruments, i.e. about as HIP, as possible! As a result, the blending of the fortepiano w/ the violin & cello is phenomenal (cello going along w/ the left hand of the pianist; violin for the right hand) - doubt this 'effect' could be accomplished w/ modern instruments - these are DDD recordings made just several years ago, and on the Brilliant label!Check out the review by David Bryson on Amazon; BTW, I paid about $33 for this set on the Amazon Marketplace; presently, being offered at BRO for $30! You may not want 40+ Haydn 'Piano Trios' but @ $3 a disc, what's there to lose?
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