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Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on February 21, 2018, 07:10:29 PMThe other one that comes to mind is Schiff, who moves back and forth. He is still known as a modern pianist, but he does very well on fortepiano, even adopting the idiom.

...also Brautigam.

amw

I think you have to learn performance style all over again with each new piece, because you can't perform any two pieces in the exact same way, and certainly you can't perform the music of different time periods in exactly the same way (even on a modern instrument).

Other successful modern keyboard players who also developed a HIP style would include Alexei Lubimov & Peter Serkin.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: amw on February 21, 2018, 11:39:48 PM
I think you have to learn performance style all over again with each new piece, because you can't perform any two pieces in the exact same way, and certainly you can't perform the music of different time periods in exactly the same way (even on a modern instrument).

Other successful modern keyboard players who also developed a HIP style would include Alexei Lubimov & Peter Serkin.
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on February 21, 2018, 09:53:02 PM
...also Brautigam.

Yes, I agree with that, performing the music of different periods in the same style is something that has always bothered me. You hear it in all sorts of instrumental combinations including full orchestra. This is exactly what sent me over the HIP cliff 25 years ago!

I didn't know Lubimov as a modern pianist, nor do I really know Serkin as a PI player. I'll have to see what I can find by him.

Yes, Brautigam too. IIRC, I have a Mendelssohn concertos disk by him on modern piano (??).

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Florestan

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on February 22, 2018, 05:07:15 AM
Yes, Brautigam too. IIRC, I have a Mendelssohn concertos disk by him on modern piano (??).

He recorded the complete Songs without Words on a 2010 Paul McNulty copy of a 1830 Pleyel



and Rachmaninoff's complete preludes on a presumably modern piano (no details are offered in the booklet)

Every kind of music is good, except the boring kind. — Rossini

Gurn Blanston

Those SWW's look interesting. This is the one I was talking about though, they are careful to always call it a piano, no forte involved anywhere. It is a Fazioli, which I know nothing about.

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Florestan

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That looks quite interesting, actually.

Go figure, Brautigam also recorded Schnittke and Shostakovich.  :)
Every kind of music is good, except the boring kind. — Rossini

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on February 22, 2018, 05:43:45 AM
That looks quite interesting, actually.

Go figure, Brautigam also recorded Schittke and Shostakovich.  :)

Ouch!  Please: Schnittke, Schnittke.
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Florestan

Every kind of music is good, except the boring kind. — Rossini

Wakefield

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Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on February 22, 2018, 05:50:49 AM
Typo, Karl, just a typo.

Oh, I know.

But, an unfortunate one  0:)
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: Gordo on February 22, 2018, 05:53:12 AM
What a fantastic hair has always had Brautigam!  :D

Indeedie.
Every kind of music is good, except the boring kind. — Rossini

Florestan

Every kind of music is good, except the boring kind. — Rossini

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Wakefield

Jörg Demus, an old glory, and almost an exact contemporary of Badura-Skoda, should mentioned too.  :)
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Gordo on February 22, 2018, 05:59:05 AM
Jörg Demus, an old glory, and almost an exact contemporary of Badura-Skoda, should mentioned too.  :)

Yes, absolutely. One of my favorite disks of the last couple of years (2011, but I just got it last year) is JD and PBS playing Mozart 4-hand. Just 2 really old guys, playing with the best of them!

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George

Quote from: Florestan on February 22, 2018, 05:16:07 AM
and Rachmaninoff's complete preludes on a presumably modern piano (no details are offered in the booklet)



27 preludes? That's really complete.  ;D

I did some googling and found another (likely correct) image:

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Florestan

Quote from: George on February 22, 2018, 06:43:35 AM
27 preludes? That's really complete.  ;D

I did some googling and found another (likely correct) image:



Hah! I hadn't noticed that.  :D
Every kind of music is good, except the boring kind. — Rossini

kishnevi

Quote from: George on February 22, 2018, 06:43:35 AM
27 preludes? That's really complete.  ;D

I did some googling and found another (likely correct) image:



Not to too far afield, but Rachmaninoff did in fact write 27 preludes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Sergei_Rachmaninoff

Florestan

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Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on February 22, 2018, 08:20:24 AM
Not to too far afield, but Rachmaninoff did in fact write 27 preludes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Sergei_Rachmaninoff

The Brautigam disc has only 24, though: op. 3 no. 2, op. 23 and op. 32. At least my copy has. Now this is a mistery: could there be a release with the same cover which has all 27 of them?  ???

EDIT: Yes, a Google search show this to be the case. There are actually two different releases with the same cover, one supercomplete with all 27, one with only 24.
Every kind of music is good, except the boring kind. — Rossini

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on February 22, 2018, 11:51:12 AM
EDIT: Yes, a Google search show this to be the case. There are actually two different releases with the same cover, one supercomplete with all 27, one with only 24.

Thanks; I rather suspected so  :)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot