Haydn's Haus

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George

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2022, 07:48:52 AM
The best Creation ever recorded.



Yes, but it is it the best recording ever created?  ;)
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Madiel

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2022, 07:48:52 AM
The best Creation ever recorded.



Those are fighting words. *pulls out his Gardiner recording*
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

André

I happen to prefer Karajan's later recording with the WP - a superb version IMO. Also at the top of my list : Karl Frorster (EMI) and Paul Griffiths (Nightingale). I don't think I've heard Gardiner ?

DavidW

Yes I love Gardiner, like McCreesh, and recently really enjoyed Savall (which came out only last year).  And here is an old favorite of mine:




Finally let's not forget Hogwood!

staxomega

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2022, 07:48:52 AM
The best Creation ever recorded.



Only because Giulini didn't record it  0:)

amw

Quote from: DavidW on April 22, 2022, 04:38:53 PM
Yes I love Gardiner, like McCreesh, and recently really enjoyed Savall (which came out only last year).  And here is an old favorite of mine:


I should get that. But I really don't like the music very much (so far in my life, anyway).

(Alternatively, perhaps Spering is what I need to turn my opinion around. I've heard Karajan and Gardiner before, I think, plus whoever recorded it for Vivarte.)

Valentino

Quote from: Madiel on April 22, 2022, 12:42:41 PM
Those are fighting words. *pulls out his Gardiner recording*
That's the other one I like. The sequence leeading up to Und es war Licht! is fun to present to the unårepared.
I also have Jacobs which was a let down after his Jahrezeiten.
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Madiel

Quote from: Valentino on April 22, 2022, 11:14:54 PM
That's the other one I like. The sequence leeading up to Und es war Licht! is fun to present to the unårepared.
I also have Jacobs which was a let down after his Jahrezeiten.

Look, I honestly think that sequence is one of the most genius things in all music. If you can make a C major chord sound like THAT you're one of the great composers.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Brian

Quote from: amw on April 22, 2022, 09:15:03 PM
I should get that. But I really don't like the music very much (so far in my life, anyway).

(Alternatively, perhaps Spering is what I need to turn my opinion around. I've heard Karajan and Gardiner before, I think, plus whoever recorded it for Vivarte.)
I listened to it for the first time ever in February in the new Savall recording, on blast level volume while driving. As a nonreligious person, the subject matter in itself isn't interesting to me, which meant that structurally it was repetitious and a little bit predictable. (Am guessing the form was very old fashioned for its time.) But the beginning and especially the last 15 minutes had passages of total genius that lit up all the parts of my brain. I'll try a few more times, perhaps comparing to the other recommendations here, before making a sacrilegious "highlights reel" playlist of the best bits  ;D

Karl Henning

Brian, you do make me smile ....
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

SonicMan46

Quote from: DavidW on April 22, 2022, 04:38:53 PM
Yes I love Gardiner, like McCreesh, and recently really enjoyed Savall (which came out only last year).  And here is an old favorite of mine:

 

Finally let's not forget Hogwood!

LOL!  :laugh:  As usual everyone has their favs - above are the two I own at the moment (have culled out a number over the years but cannot remember which ones?  ???) - Dave

DavidW

Quote from: SonicMan46 on April 23, 2022, 07:12:07 AM
(have culled out a number over the years but cannot remember which ones?  ???) - Dave

Nah you just don't want to tell us that you culled Karajan and Gardiner! :laugh:

Olias

Don't know if this was covered before and I didn't want to read through a bajillion pages, but last year Decca reissued Marriner's Haydn recordings in a lovely box set with the original artwork and a nice book.  I've really been enjoying them a lot, especially the Paris symphonies which are giving my favorites (Bernstein/NY) some competition.  They are on modern instruments but with historical interpretation.  Anyone else enjoying these?

"It is the artists of the world, the feelers, and the thinkers who will ultimately save us." - Leonard Bernstein

André

Quote from: Olias on April 23, 2022, 07:23:29 AM
Don't know if this was covered before and I didn't want to read through a bajillion pages, but last year Decca reissued Marriner's Haydn recordings in a lovely box set with the original artwork and a nice book.  I've really been enjoying them a lot, especially the Paris symphonies which are giving my favorites (Bernstein/NY) some competition.  They are on modern instruments but with historical interpretation.  Anyone else enjoying these?

Many here (me included) have bought this Marriner set the minute it came out. I used to play the LPs and cassettes non stop. Marriner was my introduction to the pre-London symphonies.

Olias

Quote from: André on April 23, 2022, 07:36:17 AM
Many here (me included) have bought this Marriner set the minute it came out. I used to play the LPs and cassettes non stop. Marriner was my introduction to the pre-London symphonies.

Ah, that would explain it being on backorder the week I purchased it.  :)
"It is the artists of the world, the feelers, and the thinkers who will ultimately save us." - Leonard Bernstein

Karl Henning

Quote from: DavidW on April 23, 2022, 07:16:07 AM
Nah you just don't want to tell us that you culled Karajan and Gardiner! :laugh:

(* chortle *)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Olias on April 23, 2022, 07:23:29 AM
Don't know if this was covered before and I didn't want to read through a bajillion pages, but last year Decca reissued Marriner's Haydn recordings in a lovely box set with the original artwork and a nice book.  I've really been enjoying them a lot, especially the Paris symphonies which are giving my favorites (Bernstein/NY) some competition.  They are on modern instruments but with historical interpretation.  Anyone else enjoying these?



Yes, indeed.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Daverz

Quote from: Olias on April 23, 2022, 07:23:29 AM
Don't know if this was covered before and I didn't want to read through a bajillion pages, but last year Decca reissued Marriner's Haydn recordings in a lovely box set with the original artwork and a nice book.  I've really been enjoying them a lot, especially the Paris symphonies which are giving my favorites (Bernstein/NY) some competition.  They are on modern instruments but with historical interpretation.  Anyone else enjoying these?

Good to see the Marriner recordings being re-evaluated.  For years these recordings were snubbed for not being HIP and for, well, being part of Marriner's copious recording output.

Olias

Quote from: Daverz on April 23, 2022, 03:19:49 PM
Good to see the Marriner recordings being re-evaluated.  For years these recordings were snubbed for not being HIP and for, well, being part of Marriner's copious recording output.

I never heard the original releases on LP so I just recently listened to them for the first time.  I've really been enjoying them.
"It is the artists of the world, the feelers, and the thinkers who will ultimately save us." - Leonard Bernstein

Karl Henning

Quote from: Olias on April 23, 2022, 04:57:03 PM
I never heard the original releases on LP so I just recently listened to them for the first time.  I've really been enjoying them.

Ditto.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot