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Quote from: Skogwald on February 04, 2023, 07:21:20 AMI haven't yet found his symphonies nearly as sublime as his quartets, keyboard sonatas and piano trios.
Quote from: Jo498 on February 05, 2023, 06:23:08 AMThe symphonies cover slightly different ground. Many are a bit more "crowd pleasers" for obvious reasons, but some also offer other aspects. The "wildest" quartet might be op.20/3 but some symphonies from around 1770 (39, 45, 49 etc.) ware far "stormier". And in the late symphonies there are movements as subtle and sublime as any in the quartets. The most renowned slow movement might be in #88 (Brahms supposedly said he wanted his 9th symphony to sound like this (probably apocryphal). Tovey once wrote that the two best instrumental pieces by Haydn were the quartet op.77/2 and the symphonies 102 and 104.There is also, more in earlier symphonies, the concertante element with soli and colorful instrumentation, e.g. in the "day times" 6-8 or "horn call" #31.
Quote from: Skogwald on February 05, 2023, 07:22:31 AMThank you for this writeup. I might now just revisit these symphonies that you mentioned here!
Quote from: Skogwald on February 04, 2023, 07:21:20 AMFor me, Derzhavina is definitely the pianist who best manages to convey the beauty in these works.
Quote from: Jo498 on February 05, 2023, 04:41:15 AMMy favorite op. 54 is by the Juilliard Qt.
Quote from: Jo498 on February 05, 2023, 09:35:56 AMWith the Pro Arte one has to live not only with lack repeats but 1930s sound; I don't remember enough about this one, in fact because there series is so incomplete, I would not have known that op.54 is complete (it is, so is op.74). I got them when it came in the slim box but I have not listened to it enough (I probably went through the whole box about once) and never really got what's so special about them to make up for the historical sound, so I'd be wary to recommend them.
Quote from: amw on February 05, 2023, 11:53:07 PMThere are good individual sets of Op. 54 and 55 by the Párkányí and Panocha Quartets respectively as well, both in modern sound; I don't hear them discussed very often and am curious as to other people's thoughts on them. (I usually also turn to the Juilliard Quartet in Op. 54 though.)
Quote from: Jo498 on February 15, 2023, 11:00:22 AMI love the gorgeous slow movement of the Sinfonia concertante; the outer movements are good but not huge favorites.
Quote from: 71 dB on February 15, 2023, 10:50:50 AMI watched on TV a concert from Helsinki Music Hall (conductor Maxim Emelyanychev). They played Haydn's Sinfonia Concertante (+Ligeti/Mendelssohn). I don't remember hearing the work before. I liked it a lot.
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