Haydn's Haus

[DavidW]

Since I already have and love these two sets of Kuijken

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I've decided to finally pull the trigger on this before it goes oop, because you know how PI classical era sets like to do that.

I can't wait!

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[Gurn Blanston]

Would love to join a Haydn discussion like this, but I really don't have much knowledge of anything but the symphonies.  I'm currently on my second time through the complete set (Fischer/Nimbus) and am on 88-90 (listen to one disc just about every day for a week).

I have almost all the string quartets on vinyl (Aeolian/LST), but I have never listened to them yet.  I got them when the main branch of the library in my hometown was throwing out most of their vinyls several years ago.  Since it looked like most of them had been seldom, if ever, played, I figured the price ($0) was right.

But, since comments on the symphonies seem to be pretty much verboten here, I'll just say "adieu" to this thread till much later. 

Nothing is verboten here, actually. Only that the symphonies have their own thread so not much ends up here. I would encourage you strongly to listen to those string quartet recordings though. If you aren't yet familiar with Haydn's string quartets, you are missing a treat. I only wish I could start all over again just to experience the delight one more time.

[snyprrr]

I think I would rank 'em from awesome to suckage as (and yeah I've color coded them by tier)

1. String Quartets
2. Masses, The Creation, The Seasons
3. Symphonies
4. Piano Sonatas and Variations
5. Piano Trios
6. Concertos
7. Baryton chamber works, well heck all other chamber works
8. Songs
9. Operas

Quick everyone rank your favorite genres of Haydn!

uh,... Haydn wrote more than String Quartets? Preposterous!!

[Gurn Blanston]

I've decided to finally pull the trigger on this before it goes oop, because you know how PI classical era sets like to do that.

I can't wait!

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That's a good move, David. I really like that recording. The only hole that would leave in their Haydn symphonies recordings for you would be the London's. If you are really patient (like yours truly) you can find the 5 individual disks on DHM. Or, you can get it as a 4 disk set from Japan, probably a bit more expensive. Either way it is a model of small orchestra Haydn, so different than most and still my favorites!

[Gurn Blanston]

uh,... Haydn wrote more than String Quartets? Preposterous!!

Yeah, he wrote this stuff too;

[DavidW]

That's a good move, David. I really like that recording. The only hole that would leave in their Haydn symphonies recordings for you would be the London's. If you are really patient (like yours truly) you can find the 5 individual disks on DHM. Or, you can get it as a 4 disk set from Japan, probably a bit more expensive. Either way it is a model of small orchestra Haydn, so different than most and still my favorites!

3 of those cds are on itunes.  But there is also Minkowski, so I guess the question is:

Which choice?
(a) Kuijken
(b) Minkowski
(c) both!
(d) neither!

[TheGSMoeller]

Since I already have and love these two sets of Kuijken

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I've decided to finally pull the trigger on this before it goes oop, because you know how PI classical era sets like to do that.

I can't wait!

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Agreed, all three are great!

I've been diving into some of the Naxos recordings, some are ultra cheap so it's hard to pass on. Symphony no.31 "Hornsignal" has long been one of my favorite, possibly the Harnoncourt version my top choice, one of the symphonies I've listened to the most (can you guess an instrument I used to play?  ), this performance by Budapest Nicolaus Esterhazy Sinfonia/Bela Drahos is quite lovely. The horns are a bit more subdued and blend in more with the rest of the ensemble than in Harnoncourt's, or even Mackarres's recordings. Not that it's better or worse.

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[Gurn Blanston]

And what about Ádám Fischer's complete box? Months ago I added it to my wish list. (I considered Dorati too but I prefer HIP recording also. And after read some opinions about both I decided to add the Fischer's set.) But I've read an interview with Fischer and he said that he would like to throw out his first recordings with that orchestra. Because when he was younger he don't dare realize his own ideas. But apart from it this maybe a good complete set.

Oh yes, certainly I have Fischer. It is the best complete cycle on modern instruments, and a fine addition to my collection. I like that he realizes that his earlier efforts (which are actually the later symphonies) were not to the same standard as the later ones. Still, they are better than many, as I think he was already thinking in terms of emulating the PI people with swifter tempi and better articulation. Actually, this discussion started 4 pages back when I posted a picture of my Haydn shelf in the organize thread. The Big Box is on the top shelf...   0:)

[TheGSMoeller]

Yeah, he wrote this stuff too;

Don't go anywhere, Im headed over with 200 blank CDs!! 

[DavidW]

Gurn imagine what shape you would be in if you benchpressed your Haydn shelf everyday!

Either totally ripped or in a wheelchair... one of the two.

[Leon]

I had no idea this thread even existed!

What a treasure trove of information on my second favorite composer (... er, if you're wondering, Wolfie is #1 in my book).  But back to this thread - YES!  Kuikjen: I didn't know he had recorded more of these works, so I will have to follow suit, DavidW.

[Gurn Blanston]

3 of those cds are on itunes.  But there is also Minkowski, so I guess the question is:

Which choice?
(a) Kuijken
(b) Minkowski
(c) both!
(d) neither!

Obviously both.

[DavidW]

as I think he was already thinking in terms of emulating the PI people with swifter tempi and better articulation.

That is why it's funny that he puts down HIP in the liner notes since he owes them just a little bit.

[Gurn Blanston]

I had no idea this thread even existed!

What a treasure trove of information on my second favorite composer (... er, if you're wondering, Wolfie is #1 in my book).  But back to this thread - YES!  Kuikjen: I didn't know he had recorded more of these works, so I will have to follow suit, DavidW.

Welcome in then, Leon. This was the very first thread I started when we migrated the forum several years ago. Dedicated to my #1 favorite composer.

[Gurn Blanston]

Don't go anywhere, Im headed over with 200 blank CDs!! 

Well, that would take care of the top shelf.   C'mon over. Fair warning, Texas is hot right now...

[karlhenning]

There's got to be a Koechlin disc or two squirreled away in there . . . .

Thread Duty:

Not sure that this box of piano trios (lovely as it is) is actually chronological. How should I find out, O Gurn? IIRC, the Hoboken volumes are by genre.  Enlightenment, please, O Gurn of the Enlightenment!

[Gurn Blanston]

Gurn imagine what shape you would be in if you benchpressed your Haydn shelf everyday!

Either totally ripped or in a wheelchair... one of the two.

Afraid the wheelchair is the more likely.

[Leon]

Welcome in then, Leon. This was the very first thread I started when we migrated the forum several years ago. Dedicated to my #1 favorite composer.

Ah, but it is nice to see that, at least currently, you are concentrating on Mozart.

[DavidW]

C'mon over. Fair warning, Texas is hot right now...

No kidding, I found a pic of your backyard online:

[Vesteralen]

Nothing is verboten here, actually. Only that the symphonies have their own thread so not much ends up here. I would encourage you strongly to listen to those string quartet recordings though. If you aren't yet familiar with Haydn's string quartets, you are missing a treat. I only wish I could start all over again just to experience the delight one more time.

Thanks for the information.  And, I do intend to expand my Hadyn experience soon.  I've been eyeing that "Haydn Edition" boxed set I see on your shelves for sometime now, since I've really been impressed with the Mozart Edition I got a couple of months ago.

Meantime, I'll look for the thread on the symphonies.