Haydn's Haus

[Bogey]

Any opinions on this performance:

[Gurn Blanston]

Any opinions on this performance:

I have never heard even a single name that I can read on the cover (well, I heard of the Haydn guy, but that's about it).

[chasmaniac]

Didn't know Martin Frobisher played cello!

[Gurn Blanston]

Didn't know Martin Frobisher played cello!

Once he reached Canada, he became a man of many parts, like all Canadians...

[SonicMan46]

The Creation - just doing a little comparison the last few days; both excellent versions - depends on your mood I guess, i.e. sung in English or German!


 

[karlhenning]

The Creation - just doing a little comparison the last few days; both excellent versions - depends on your mood I guess, i.e. sung in English or German!

Well, according to Zappa, the Good Lord speaks German whenever it's Heavy Business . . . .

[karlhenning]

Once he reached Canada, he became a man of many parts, like all Canadians...

Bet his mates called him "Frobe."

[chasmaniac]

Bet his mates called him "Frobe."

You've met us!

"Hey Frobe, toss us a brewski, eh?"

[TheGSMoeller]

Purchased yesterday...




I will now own this Savall-original orchestral version, along with the String Quartet and Choral versions of Haydn's Seven Last Words of Christ on the Cross .
I own the Harnoncourt performance of the choral version, and although it is a beautiful piece,
I still tend to enjoy the String Quartet version slightly more. I'm consistently impressed with the range of emotions evoked in such a smaller instrumentation.
Also, I do realize that I have moved backwards by ending with the original orchestral commission, but hey, that's my style 

[Geo Dude]

I recently ordered this disc under Gurn's recommendation in his Classical Corner:



A very nice disc and a fine introduction to fortepiano for anyone wanting to get used to the unique sound without having to listen to just fortepiano for an hour or more at a time.

[Gurn Blanston]

Purchased yesterday...




I will now own this Savall-original orchestral version, along with the String Quartet and Choral versions of Haydn's Seven Last Words of Christ on the Cross .
I own the Harnoncourt performance of the choral version, and although it is a beautiful piece,
I still tend to enjoy the String Quartet version slightly more. I'm consistently impressed with the range of emotions evoked in such a smaller instrumentation.
Also, I do realize that I have moved backwards by ending with the original orchestral commission, but hey, that's my style 

Greg,
Don't know what SQ version you have, but the oratorio & orchestral versions are the same that I have kept. Excellent!   Backwards, forwards; it's all good.

[Gurn Blanston]

I recently ordered this disc under Gurn's recommendation in his Classical Corner:



A very nice disc and a fine introduction to fortepiano for anyone wanting to get used to the unique sound without having to listen to just fortepiano for an hour or more at a time.

Glad you liked that disk. It was my first PI Haydn and went a long way towards sealing my future fate: PI AND Haydn. 

[kishnevi]

I have never heard even a single name that I can read on the cover (well, I heard of the Haydn guy, but that's about it).

well, if Gurn the Great knows it not, then truly it is the obscurest of the obscure.

On another tangent, this is one of the CDs I found yesterday in the local used CD store. 

The second is the reissue and is presumably more readily available; I bought the original issue for $2.99 used.
One concerto is by JM Haydn, and the other is by Leopold Hoffman, but was formerly attributed to FJH (ironically, since according to the liner notes FJH thought Hoffman's music was tripe), so the only music actually by FJH himself are the six Scherzandi (Hob. II:33-38)--early miniature three movement symphonies in which the flute appears only the middle movement, in place of the other woodwinds which are used in the outer movement.  First time I even heard of these works, so I'll not give an opinion of the performance, other than to say that I liked the  JMH concerto best of the pieces recorded.

[DavidRoss]

Any opinions on this performance:

No, but the cover photo looks as if it should be captioned, "Buy this record or you'd better have eyes in the back of your head."

[Elgarian]

What a splendid thing is a record collection. I bought this (and its companion box) a while ago because a few people here were making a fuss about it. And when it arrived, I played a few CDs, listened, didn't somehow succeed in engaging much (for whatever reason - it doesn't matter), put them back on the shelf, and there they stayed till a few days ago.

Between then and now I've listened to a lot more Haydn. The Masses, for a start; and lots and lots of HIP symphonies (Pinnock, Goodman, Kuijken, Minkowski). And yesterday I saw the Mosaiques box on the shelf and thought maybe this was a good time to blow the dust off it. So I've been listening to some of the quartets from Op.20. Well, they are simply fabulous, aren't they? I can't understand my indifference of a couple of years ago, or whenever it was. Again and again he expresses this light, musical wit, and it just makes the day feel better. I said to my wife that on the evidence of his music, I think Haydn may be the great composer above all others that I'd like to have spent a lot of time in the company of. I'd love to have met Elgar, but if it had been a bad day you'd get short shrift and nothing but grumps. Not so with Haydn, I'd say! This may be the most earnestly and consistently feelgood music I know; and even though as I say that, I'm aware that it may be thought that I mean 'lightweight' - I don't. This is serious, earnest, and inspired delight.

[Gurn Blanston]

What a splendid thing is a record collection. I bought this (and its companion box) a while ago because a few people here were making a fuss about it. And when it arrived, I played a few CDs, listened, didn't somehow succeed in engaging much (for whatever reason - it doesn't matter), put them back on the shelf, and there they stayed till a few days ago.

Between then and now I've listened to a lot more Haydn. The Masses, for a start; and lots and lots of HIP symphonies (Pinnock, Goodman, Kuijken, Minkowski). And yesterday I saw the Mosaiques box on the shelf and thought maybe this was a good time to blow the dust off it. So I've been listening to some of the quartets from Op.20. Well, they are simply fabulous, aren't they? I can't understand my indifference of a couple of years ago, or whenever it was. Again and again he expresses this light, musical wit, and it just makes the day feel better. I said to my wife that on the evidence of his music, I think Haydn may be the great composer above all others that I'd like to have spent a lot of time in the company of. I'd love to have met Elgar, but if it had been a bad day you'd get short shrift and nothing but grumps. Not so with Haydn, I'd say! This may be the most earnestly and consistently feelgood music I know; and even though as I say that, I'm aware that it may be thought that I mean 'lightweight' - I don't. This is serious, earnest, and inspired delight.

Alan, I can't tell you how delighted I am to read your comments. Haydn's music was an instant hit with me, and I have never been able to grasp why it isn't with everyone. But I see that sometimes it is just a thing of the moment; i.e. - right now this doesn't appeal, but it could some day if I give it a chance. And I think another lesson learned here is that the performer(s) are not the main thing, it is the music itself that makes the connection. Despite that I have been balky over the QM, for example, my complaint has been that they are too perfect of all things! Which is silly really, but the point is that the music itself has never come into question for me. It is so consistently Je ne sais quoi... ideal to me. I had a tagline for a long time,along the lines of "I can listen to Bach for hours, but I can listen to Haydn for years". It still holds true.

[Gurn Blanston]

well, if Gurn the Great knows it not, then truly it is the obscurest of the obscure.

On another tangent, this is one of the CDs I found yesterday in the local used CD store. 

The second is the reissue and is presumably more readily available; I bought the original issue for $2.99 used.
One concerto is by JM Haydn, and the other is by Leopold Hoffman, but was formerly attributed to FJH (ironically, since according to the liner notes FJH thought Hoffman's music was tripe), so the only music actually by FJH himself are the six Scherzandi (Hob. II:33-38)--early miniature three movement symphonies in which the flute appears only the middle movement, in place of the other woodwinds which are used in the outer movement.  First time I even heard of these works, so I'll not give an opinion of the performance, other than to say that I liked the  JMH concerto best of the pieces recorded.

Jeffrey,
I have seen that disk but never heard it. Are you saying that they did the Scherzandi in 3 movements each? One of the amazing things about them, and one of their big features, is that each one is a tiny, 4 movement symphony. So they must have combined the 2 inner movements into 1. I have this version;



which is now available on that "Music for Naples and Esterhazy" box on BIS. No matter the version, they are delightful little pieces.



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Now playing:
Quatuors Festetics - Hob 03_39 Quartet in C for Strings Op 33 #3 2nd mvmt - Scherzo: Allegretto

[Bogey]

I have never heard even a single name that I can read on the cover (well, I heard of the Haydn guy, but that's about it).

He does not have much of a discography

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/albumList.jsp?name_id1=24962&name_role1=2&bcorder=2

and the asking price is $100 for the two record set (recorded at 45 speed).   As David pointed out, an intimidating chap, so may be worth the "pay-off" money for him to leave us alone.

[Bogey]

and consistently feelgood music I know; and even though as I say that, I'm aware that it may be thought that I mean 'lightweight' - I don't. This is serious, earnest, and inspired delight.

Vivaldi can get the same rap....however, I believe that both can knock down walls with the correct approach.

[Bogey]

....and this goes for Handel as well!