Haydn's Haus

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Karl Henning

Heck, I should have suggested that he do a documentary on a living composer. It may happen yet: In Search of Henningmusick

Should tap into the huge, latent Atonal Honking fandom
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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on March 25, 2012, 05:25:01 PM
Heck, I should have suggested that he do a documentary on a living composer. It may happen yet: In Search of Henningmusick

Should tap into the huge, latent Atonal Honking fandom
; )

You anticipated me! I think 'latent' is the key word there though, Karl. Perhaps a good docudrama would help transform all that latency into something akin to Haydnmania! :)

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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 25, 2012, 03:01:27 PM
Ah, The Nelson Mass. Well, of course, you would have the one with the least amount of fugal writing! :D  There is a nice little short fugue at the end of the Gloria though, and then directly following, the Credo begins with an excellent little strict canon, which you don't hear every day in Classical Era masses. Unusually enough, he even leaves out a couple of fugue possibilities, probably as much to upset the listeners' expectations as for any other reason.  :)

If you are looking for the 6 Great Masses, this box is not only excellent, but (at least recently) it is both affordable and readily available.



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I've seen this set before here in the forums, it's about time I grab it....thanks for the info, Gurn. :)

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 25, 2012, 05:39:08 PM

I've seen this set before here in the forums, it's about time I grab it....thanks for the info, Gurn. :)

My pleasure. I know you will enjoy it; great performances of great music, a can't-miss proposition! :)

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Karl Henning

Hmm, gotta revisit those masses . . . there was a brief taste from the Missa in tempore belli in the film this morning . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 25, 2012, 03:01:27 PM
Ah, The Nelson Mass. Well, of course, you would have the one with the least amount of fugal writing! :D  There is a nice little short fugue at the end of the Gloria though, and then directly following, the Credo begins with an excellent little strict canon, which you don't hear every day in Classical Era masses. Unusually enough, he even leaves out a couple of fugue possibilities, probably as much to upset the listeners' expectations as for any other reason.  :)

If you are looking for the 6 Great Masses, this box is not only excellent, but (at least recently) it is both affordable and readily available.



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Oh, this wicked Haus!  Not too wicked though, this is very nicely priced, indeed.

And I see that has the Salve Regina.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on March 25, 2012, 05:56:13 PM
Hmm, gotta revisit those masses . . . there was a brief taste from the Missa in tempore belli in the film this morning . . . .

That's a good'un! I really like that little obligatto cello part in the 'Qui tollis peccata mundi' part of the Gloria. And the minor mode (quite unexpected) in the Benedictus. This was written the same year as the Nelson Mass, they had to have been back-to-back, in fact, and yet each has its own distinct character. :)

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on March 25, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
Oh, this wicked Haus!  Not too wicked though, this is very nicely priced, indeed.

And I see that has the Salve Regina.


0:)  I haven't checked it in a while now, but last summer it was going for less than $20, a bargain in anyone's book!  :)

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Karl Henning

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 25, 2012, 06:09:42 PM
0:)  I haven't checked it in a while now, but last summer it was going for less than $20, a bargain in anyone's book!  :)

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Yes, when I saw that price-point, I was corn unto Haydn's sickle.

Also set me up to pull the trigger on Harnoncourt's recording of the Stabat Mater.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Madiel

I've not seen any of the 'In Search Of' movies.  I have, though, seen a couple of film reviews of the Haydn one that were fairly faint with their praise.  The reviewers were of course film buffs rather than Haydn fans, but much of their criticism came down to the filmmakers failing to compensate for Haydn not having led the kind of exciting, dramatic life that Beethoven or Mozart supplied for the previous films.

I guess it's a lot harder to make a documentary about someone who was basically a nice chap that everyone got one with extremely well and who stayed happily employed in one spot for a couple of decades.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on March 25, 2012, 06:12:19 PM
Yes, when I saw that price-point, I was corn unto Haydn's sickle.

Also set me up to pull the trigger on Harnoncourt's recording of the Stabat Mater.


Ah yes, I see you were a victim (yet again) of friendly fire at AMP... :D :D  I'm pretty shot up myself... :-\

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Karl Henning

Quote from: orfeo on March 25, 2012, 06:15:23 PM
I've not seen any of the 'In Search Of' movies.  I have, though, seen a couple of film reviews of the Haydn one that were fairly faint with their praise.  The reviewers were of course film buffs rather than Haydn fans, but much of their criticism came down to the filmmakers failing to compensate for Haydn not having led the kind of exciting, dramatic life that Beethoven or Mozart supplied for the previous films.

I guess it's a lot harder to make a documentary about someone who was basically a nice chap that everyone got one with extremely well and who stayed happily employed in one spot for a couple of decades.

Well, if their beef with it is, as you suggest, that his life doesn't make so smashing a film as The Spanish Inquisition . . . they've got to get over it ; )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 25, 2012, 06:16:37 PM
Ah yes, I see you were a victim (yet again) of friendly fire at AMP... :D :D  I'm pretty shot up myself... :-\

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Aye, just so : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: orfeo on March 25, 2012, 06:15:23 PM
I've not seen any of the 'In Search Of' movies.  I have, though, seen a couple of film reviews of the Haydn one that were fairly faint with their praise.  The reviewers were of course film buffs rather than Haydn fans, but much of their criticism came down to the filmmakers failing to compensate for Haydn not having led the kind of exciting, dramatic life that Beethoven or Mozart supplied for the previous films.

I guess it's a lot harder to make a documentary about someone who was basically a nice chap that everyone got one with extremely well and who stayed happily employed in one spot for a couple of decades.

Well, this has been Haydn's albatross even since he was still alive, and greatly more so since his death. He didn't suffer enough for the Romantics, for example. And he was too much a lackey to the upper classes for the emerging proletariat. Totally overlooking the fact, of course, that he rose from being the son of the village wheelwright who only got to learn how to read because he could sing nicely, and rose to the point where he was invited to dinner with the King of England! And this by dint of hard work rather than sucking up. >:(

You make a good point about the reviewers. They are looking for excitement. They should go to Afghanistan...  >:D

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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 25, 2012, 03:01:27 PM
If you are looking for the 6 Great Masses, this box is not only excellent, but (at least recently) it is both affordable and readily available.




The Nelson Mass from that box produced a first in the Rock house a few weeks ago. I had just put it on, was blasting the Kyrie, when Mrs. Rock arrived home from work. She said, "That's pretty exciting....what is it?"

"Haydn," says I.

"No!" says she, dumbfounded. "Well, I like it anyway."  ;D

She's not a fan of the Classical era. She likes some Beethoven. Likes some minor key Mozart. But Haydn she dislikes intensely. So, this was something of a breakthrough. The first time in 35 years she has happily listened to Haydn    :D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 06:28:22 AM
The Nelson Mass from that box produced a first in the Rock house a few weeks ago. I had just put it on, was blasting the Kyrie, when Mrs. Rock arrived home from work. She said, "That's pretty exciting....what is it?"

"Haydn," says I.

"No!" says she, dumbfounded. "Well, I like it anyway."  ;D

She's not a fan of the Classical era. She likes some Beethoven. Likes some minor key Mozart. But Haydn she dislikes intensely. So, this was something of a breakthrough. The first time in 35 years she has happily listened to Haydn    :D

Sarge

How cool is that!?! :D

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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on March 25, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
Oh, this wicked Haus!  Not too wicked though, this is very nicely priced, indeed.

That box would be worth it at three times the price. Brilliant performances. I'm usually very allergic to boy choirs but the Tölzers make such a thrilling noise I'm not put off. And, thank god and Bruno Weil, adult soloists are employed.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 06:28:22 AM
The Nelson Mass from that box produced a first in the Rock house a few weeks ago. I had just put it on, was blasting the Kyrie, when Mrs. Rock arrived home from work. She said, "That's pretty exciting....what is it?"

"Haydn," says I.

"No!" says she, dumbfounded. "Well, I like it anyway."  ;D

She's not a fan of the Classical era. She likes some Beethoven. Likes some minor key Mozart. But Haydn she dislikes intensely. So, this was something of a breakthrough. The first time in 35 years she has happily listened to Haydn    :D

Sarge
Brilliant! Play it again! :)
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Karl Henning

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 26, 2012, 06:43:49 AM
How cool is that!?! :D

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Gurn, your long patient labor is bearing excellent fruit.

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 06:46:01 AM
That box would be worth it at three times the price. Brilliant performances. I'm usually very allergic to boy choirs but the Tölzers make such a thrilling noise I'm not put off. And, thank god and Bruno Weil, adult soloists are employed.

Sarge

Excellent to hear, Sarge!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Opus106

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 26, 2012, 06:28:22 AM
But Haydn she dislikes intensely.

How is that even possible? ???

In any case, congrats on the breakthrough! :D
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Navneeth