Haydn's Haus

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: sanantonio on October 14, 2012, 06:31:49 AM
This set is also very good:

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The Adam Fischer set is also very good and was my first complete set.

Yes, it's very good indeed. I hesitated to recommend it to a newcomer to the works because of the various little surprises that Minkowski has in his bag. It would be a great second set though, especially if one goes with Harnoncourt/Concertgebouw for the first 'toe in the water', don't you think?  That #94 always makes me laugh, although a lot of the more conservative folks I know take offense. ::)

Interesting that we have so many Haydn recordings in common. Needless to say, Fischer was MY first complete set also, although I darn near had a complete set made of singles before that one came along.  :)

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Quote from: sanantonio on October 14, 2012, 06:43:58 AM
You know, I've heard that about his recording, but it has never bothered me - sure, the first time, but it is a small thing, and as you say, a funny touch.

I think the 'Military' from this set is very nice. It is the one I chose for my permanent playlist in my essays. I feel like he hits everything just right. :)

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By the way, Gurn, I picked up Haroncourt's set of Paris Symphonies on Deutsche Harmonia Mundi for $1 last night. Can't wait to hear these. :)

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Quote from: Mirror Image on October 14, 2012, 07:07:27 AM
By the way, Gurn, I picked up Haroncourt's set of Paris Symphonies on Deutsche Harmonia Mundi for $1 last night. Can't wait to hear these. :)

How in hell did you manage that?  That 3 disk set has been going for at least $25 since the day it was released. Good on you though!  I think he brings new life to these works. Not like they aren't already ass-kicking, but he puts the cherry on top, so to speak. :)

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Opus106

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 14, 2012, 07:09:47 AM
How in hell did you manage that?

Not following the news, eh? ;)

Mass mis-pricing on the part of AMP seller (formerly blowitoutahere). Almost everything -- and I mean almost everything in the inventory regardless of number of discs and label -- was up for $1. Now the storefront is missing from Amazon's website. ;D
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Quote from: Opus106 on October 14, 2012, 07:23:36 AM
Not following the news, eh? ;)

Mass mis-pricing on the part of AMP seller (formerly blowitoutahere). Almost everything -- and I mean almost everything in the inventory regardless of number of discs and label -- was up for $1. Now the storefront is missing from Amazon's website. ;D

Yeah, I saw the talk, but no one would mention the name of the seller. Well, so it goes; I bought a pisspot full of disks from them over the years. Despite the name they were a good reliable seller, at least for me. The question of course will be whether all that stuff shows up or not.  :)

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Opus106

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 14, 2012, 07:27:50 AM
Yeah, I saw the talk, but no one would mention the name of the seller.

They must be the heirs apparent of the Dark Lord. Of course, Connor and Scarpia later revealed the name.

QuoteThe question of course will be whether all that stuff shows up or not.  :)
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Precisely.
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 14, 2012, 07:09:47 AM
How in hell did you manage that?  That 3 disk set has been going for at least $25 since the day it was released. Good on you though!  I think he brings new life to these works. Not like they aren't already ass-kicking, but he puts the cherry on top, so to speak. :)

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What Opus said: a price mis-matching spectacle swept across the i-deals store (aka Blowitoutahere). I bought 109 recordings total and I'm only counting the box sets as one. So, yeah, pretty incredible this happened.

I do look forward to hearing Harnoncourt's Paris performances. He's such a good conductor and I respect his work a lot.

DavidRoss

Quote from: Mirror Image on October 14, 2012, 07:07:27 AM
By the way, Gurn, I picked up Haroncourt's set of Paris Symphonies on Deutsche Harmonia Mundi for $1 last night. Can't wait to hear these. :)
That's one I didn't see but would have snagged if I had!
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Quote from: DavidRoss on October 14, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
That's one I didn't see but would have snagged if I had!

Me too, if I didn't already have it...   0:)

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Karl Henning

Good morning, Gurn!  Just wanted generally to thank you for your championing of "Papa," which in time brought me into the Haus.

Might bring In Search of Haydn down south to watch with my brother . . . .
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on October 15, 2012, 04:14:40 AM
Good morning, Gurn!  Just wanted generally to thank you for your championing of "Papa," which in time brought me into the Haus.

Might bring In Search of Haydn down south to watch with my brother . . . .

It has been totally my pleasure. The fact that some other folks have derived pleasure from such wonderful music is a dividend I hadn't counted on; always the best kind! :)

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Karl Henning

Well, and I am re-motivated to do something about all these Fischer symphonies discs to which I've not yet listened!
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DavidRoss

Quote from: karlhenning on October 16, 2012, 06:13:30 AM
Well, and I am re-motivated to do something about all these Fischer symphonies discs to which I've not yet listened!
And so you have!
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SonicMan46

Wind Divertimenti, Marches, et al - for those who like their Haydn a little windy!   ;D

Duplicates much in my other recordings of these works, but nice compact 2-disc set and another BRO bargain - brought to my attention by Gurn a half dozen pages or so back in this thread.  Yes, period instruments would have been of interest (but I have other recordings that fulfill that requirement) and the English translation of the French line notes can be bemusing, but not a problem.  Dave :)
 

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Quote from: SonicMan46 on October 16, 2012, 06:23:41 AM
Wind Divertimenti, Marches, et al - for those who like their Haydn a little windy!   ;D

Duplicates much in my other recordings of these works, but nice compact 2-disc set and another BRO bargain - brought to my attention by Gurn a half dozen pages or so back in this thread.  Yes, period instruments would have been of interest (but I have other recordings that fulfill that requirement) and the English translation of the French line notes can be bemusing, but not a problem.  Dave :)
 


But I had never even heard most of the marches before, except as keyboard reductions, so that was the cool part for me. That 'Hungarian National March' was especially nice. :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 16, 2012, 06:42:01 AM
But I had never even heard most of the marches before, except as keyboard reductions, so that was the cool part for me. That 'Hungarian National March' was especially nice. :)

Agree - there certainly is some 'new' stuff for me and plan to do a second listening today and have compared w/ my other recordings to determine the differences, for those interested; the older ones owned are shown below w/ the London Wind Soloists(LWS), 1 disc and Huss/Haydn Sinfonietta Wien (HSW), 5 discs - these are on period instruments.

The LWS recording has 7 divertimenti, 5 of which appear on the first disc of the Avie 2-CD set, so 2 extra on LWS (H.II:G8 & H.II:D23).

The HSW also duplicates 5 divertiment of that first Avie disc, and of course w/ 5 CDs has many more recordings included!

BUT, the 2nd Avie disc is pretty much a 'new' addition for me (just 2 duplications), and as Gurn has stated many of these are the Marches (all but one w/ H.VII numbers); that disc also includes 2 divertimenti sans H. & 2 divertimenti from H.II:43 & 46.

SO, for those wanting some of these works, the Avie 2-CD set is certainly an inexpensive introduction on modern instruments; for a contrasting PI addition of the divertimenti, then the 1-disc LWS is recommended; the 5-disc HSW has a LOT of music but only 2 of the marches.  Hope this helps - Dave :)

 

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Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 16, 2012, 08:12:51 AM

The 102 is very fine, but 89 and 105 are the real gems on this disc, and both a more pressing need. In fact, Fey's is my first 105 on CD.

Sarge

Sarge, do you have the Fischer cycle?  If you do, it was too bad that they did not include with it (at least I believe they did not) what is deemed the 105 as it is included by Fischer in the big brick from Brilliant.  However, in the brick set it is titled Sinfonia Concertante in B flat major for Violin, Cello, Oboe, and Bassoon.  Maybe I missed it, but I thought 104 capped it.  I am listening to the Sifonia right now and it does sound like a symphony.....but wait, here come the solo instruments.  However, it does carry the Hob I:105....is it a hybrid....either way, very nice piece.

OK, your turn, Gurn. 
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kishnevi

Quote from: Bogey on October 16, 2012, 07:41:38 PM
Sarge, do you have the Fischer cycle?  If you do, it was too bad that they did not include with it (at least I believe they did not) what is deemed the 105 as it is included by Fischer in the big brick from Brilliant.  However, in the brick set it is titled Sinfonia Concertante in B flat major for Violin, Cello, Oboe, and Bassoon.  Maybe I missed it, but I thought 104 capped it.  I am listening to the Sifonia right now and it does sound like a symphony.....but wait, here come the solo instruments.  However, it does carry the Hob I:105....is it a hybrid....either way, very nice piece.

OK, your turn, Gurn.

The Brilliant 100 CD Symphony box, which includes the Fischer cycle,  has it on the same CD as Symphonies 91 and 92, with the same title as the big Brick.

Bogey

Why is it not in this set?



Might as well had included it like they did in my brick set.
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