Haydn's Haus

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: sanantonio on April 03, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
Fantastic that they have turned their attention to Haydn.  All I've heard from them was Boccherini - and that was very good.

Ah! Well that sounds promising then. I've had them on my wish list since reading those reviews, and they finally rose to the top this week. I can't remember any mention  of anything else they had done though. Boccherini works for me, though!  Another group I would like to hear doing some Haydn is Revolutionary Drawing Room. I have their Boccherini, Mozart (with Colin Lawson) and 4 or 5 of their Donizetti, which is so unheralded as to be unheard of! Excellent music and playing though. Haydn would be ideal for them, I think. :-\

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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on April 03, 2013, 10:45:15 AM
The sample clips sound very nice.

I don't know, Karl. I listened to the first movement clip of 77/1 (one of my favorite Haydn movements) and it sounded like four mangy cats in heat. I might pull a paulb here and avoid this CD just on the strength of 30 seconds  :D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 03, 2013, 10:54:39 AM
I don't know, Karl. I listened to the first movement clip of 77/1 (one of my favorite Haydn movements) and it sounded like four mangy cats in heat. I might pull a paulb here and avoid this CD just on the strength of 30 seconds  :D

Sarge

Well, Sarge, they say the hearing is the second thing to go.... :D

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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: sanantonio on April 03, 2013, 10:14:23 AM
It could be your CD is a bad one and could be replaced without the problem. Mine plays fine.  But, as far as other recordings, I'd suggest the Festetics but their recordings are hard to find.  Easier to find, and also very good is the L'Archibudelli recording of the Last Three String Quartets.

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Good news/Bad news...My Quatuor Mosaiques Op. 77 is not damaged, Yay!! It's my computer's disc drive that was making it skip and pop. Booo!! Time for a computer repair.

In other news, this disc from L'Archibudelli is available on Spotify, I'm listening to it now and it's very good.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on April 03, 2013, 03:38:44 PM
Good news/Bad news...My Quatuor Mosaiques Op. 77 is not damaged, Yay!! It's my computer's disc drive that was making it skip and pop. Booo!! Time for a computer repair.

In other news, this disc from L'Archibudelli is available on Spotify, I'm listening to it now and it's very good.

Yes it is. That was my first PI version and still my favorite. That's the nice thing about L'Archibudelli; they never suck! :)

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PS - man, that sucks about your computer.   :(
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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 03, 2013, 03:43:57 PM
Yes it is. That was my first PI version and still my favorite. That's the nice thing about L'Archibudelli; they never suck! :)

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PS - man, that sucks about your computer.   :(

The drive has been acting up lately, it still has 2 months left on its warranty so hopefully it will be covered.

Mandryka

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Quote from: TheGSMoeller on April 03, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
Two questions (well, one question, one comment looking for answers) for the Haus-mates.

1. I need some good recommendations for some Op.77 PI string quartets, other than Quatuor Mosaiques.




I listened to a lot of recordings of these quartets recently.

Top recommendations:

Ulbrich (Their recording of all the op 20s (different line up from the op 20 here) is highly recommended by me.
Pro Arte (op 77/1) (if you only listen to one op 77, this should be it)





A notch below, but still very interesting


Juilliard (Testament)
Alban Berg Quartet (esp 77/2)




A further notch below but still, I've kept my copy in case I change my mind

Jerusalem Quartet (everyone else loves this quartet -- so it's probably my fault for not listening properly. They sound a bit to genteel to/for me.)
Mosaiques (thrilling  -- but they sound a bit glib to me by comparison with Ulbrich and Pro Arte.)
Amati (same)

Your posting reminds me that the one I want to hear is the Op 77/2 from the Vegh here -- I must get myself a copy of that. Does anyone know it?

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TheGSMoeller

Ah, more Op.77 and Op.20 recs (I always welcome more Op.20 recs, I'm a sucker for those fugue finales).

Thanks, Mandryka.  :)

Mandryka

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Quote from: TheGSMoeller on April 04, 2013, 03:00:21 AM
Ah, more Op.77 and Op.20 recs (I always welcome more Op.20 recs, I'm a sucker for those fugue finales).

Thanks, Mandryka.  :)

The Ulbrich were an East German ensemble I think not well known. I think their earlier  op 20s are the best I've  heard, the cellist in particular is really special.
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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Mandryka on April 04, 2013, 02:42:08 AM
Pro Arte (op 77/1) (if you only listen to one op 77, this should be it)





And can be had cheap! Only €192 at Amazon DE  :D

Mandryka, do you know if that is the same performance on Testament's Pro Arte Haydn volume 2? If so, it's a slightly more reasonable price  ;)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 03, 2013, 10:54:39 AM
. . . it sounded like four mangy cats in heat.

You say that like it's a bad thing, Sarge : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on April 04, 2013, 04:25:13 AM
You say that like it's a bad thing, Sarge : )

I'm quite familiar with the sound: We have a parking area in front of the house, enclosed by foilage on three sides. The neighborhood cats use it as a meeting place during certain periods of the year. The last thing I need is a recording mimicing the feline howls of love :D  A PI performance shouldn't be ugly. The Mosaiques, Schuppanzigh, Apponyi, A'rchibudelli prove it needn't be.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Mandryka

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 04, 2013, 04:05:25 AM
And can be had cheap! Only €192 at Amazon DE  :D

Mandryka, do you know if that is the same performance on Testament's Pro Arte Haydn volume 2? If so, it's a slightly more reasonable price  ;)

Sarge

I think so -- I think they only recorded it once. Maybe George will check as I think he has the Testament CDs and he has acces to spotify -- I listened on spotify.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: sanantonio on April 04, 2013, 04:50:09 AM
Well, that is one person's opinion.  I listened to the recording, for longer than 30 seconds, and ugly is not a word I would use to describe their playing.

Aw, he's just raggin' you. Hell, he likes the Pro Arte!  :)

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Octave

Quote from: Mandryka on April 04, 2013, 02:42:08 AM
Ulbrich (Their recording of all the op 20s (different line up from the op 20 here) is highly recommended by me.
Pro Arte (op 77/1) (if you only listen to one op 77, this should be it)



Quote from: Mandryka on April 04, 2013, 03:22:09 AM
The Ulbrich were an East German ensemble I think not well known. I think their earlier  op 20s are the best I've  heard, the cellist in particular is really special.

Mandryka, I wanted to make sure that the "earlier"/best Ulbrich Op. 20s that you mention are the following:


though for the moment I cannot find #1-3; I have not looked hard for them yet, but are/were they available from the same label?
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Karl Henning

Without going back to check, I owe it to dis Haus that I plunged into the quartets with the Amadeus Quartet, nor have I had any reason to repent me of that sonic decision : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Octave on April 04, 2013, 05:56:38 AM
Mandryka, I wanted to make sure that the "earlier"/best Ulbrich Op. 20s that you mention are the following:


though for the moment I cannot find #1-3; I have not looked hard for them yet, but are/were they available from the same label?

I just ordered that disc from AmazonUS, Octave, but couldn't find #1-3 myself.

SonicMan46

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on April 03, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
Two questions (well, one question, one comment looking for answers) for the Haus-mates.

1. I need some good recommendations for some Op.77 PI string quartets, other than Quatuor Mosaiques.


Hi Greg - now I've not looked ahead on this thread for the most recent pages, so this post may be redundant?  Sorry - :)

But, I have @ least 2 sets of the Haydn SQs, mostly on period instruments - I own a lot of the Quatuor Festetics recordings on Arcana - really enjoy; their earlier recording on Quintana is also in my collection & includes Op. 77 & 103 - not sure about its availability?  Good luck in your search - Dave


TheGSMoeller

Quote from: SonicMan46 on April 04, 2013, 07:25:39 AM
Hi Greg - now I've not looked ahead on this thread for the most recent pages, so this post may be redundant?  Sorry - :)

But, I have @ least 2 sets of the Haydn SQs, mostly on period instruments - I own a lot of the Quatuor Festetics recordings on Arcana - really enjoy; their earlier recording on Quintana is also in my collection & includes Op. 77 & 103 - not sure about its availability?  Good luck in your search - Dave



Truthfully, the door for Haydn recommendations never closes with me.  ;)
The Quatuor Festetics is a group I've never listened to, but will definitely search them out.
Thanks, Dave!