Haydn's Haus

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Florestan

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 08, 2016, 04:42:32 PM
I have found that almost the hardest part of dealing with 18th century European history is putting modern territorial names and boundaries out of your head. There were Italians, but there was no Italy. There were Germans but there was no Germany.

Across the pond, there were Americans but there was no USA. Just saying.  ;D
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Jo498

Technically, I think Haydn was Austrian and Mozart German because the Archbishopric of Salzburg did at this time not belong to Austria.
But there was no Germany as a political entity at this time because the Holy Roman Empire was only overlapping with Germany and while the Emperors had been Hapsburgs for ages then the more southeastern parts of Austria-Hungary were not part of the Holy Roman Empire.

But culturally/musically all were called "German" (vs. Italian and French, don't think other musical cultures were explicitly recognized, despite some use of Spanish or Hungarian folk idioms for "exotic" pieces - the greatest "Spanish" composers of the 18th cent. were Italians: D. Scarlatti and Boccherini...) although there had been stylistic differences between "North German"(including middle/eastern parts, like Saxony) and South German/Austrian musicians already in the mid/late 17th century, mostly along the Lutheran/Catholic dividing lines, I guess. (Although it gets complicated there as well, e.g. when August of Saxony converted to Catholicism to become King of Poland...)
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- Blaise Pascal

Madiel

*Compares Texas to size of Australian states*

*Laughs and leaves*
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Scion7

*looks at Sydney Funnel-Web Spider, Queensland's Northern Tree Funnel-web Spider, and the Eastern Brown Snake, and decides Haydn would have much preferred Texas with its jackrabbits*
Saint-Saëns, who predicted to Charles Lecocq in 1901: 'That fellow Ravel seems to me to be destined for a serious future.'

Brian

Quote from: orfeo on May 11, 2016, 06:26:45 AM
*Compares Texas to size of Australian states*

*Laughs and leaves*
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: orfeo on May 11, 2016, 06:26:45 AM
*Compares Texas to size of Australian states*

*Laughs and leaves*

Damn, y'all have even more wasteland than WE do!!  :o  :o

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Brian

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 11, 2016, 07:53:06 AM
Damn, y'all have even more wasteland than WE do!!  :o  :o

8)
Now if only we could send them Ted Cruz.

Madiel

Quote from: Scion7 on May 11, 2016, 07:06:18 AM
*looks at Sydney Funnel-Web Spider, Queensland's Northern Tree Funnel-web Spider, and the Eastern Brown Snake, and decides Haydn would have much preferred Texas with its jackrabbits*

Wow, you are totally worried about the wrong things. Funnel-web spiders? No-one's died from a Sydney funnel-web since the antivenom became available in 1981. You'd be far better off worrying about the crocodiles. Or the tiny jellyfish that are lethal.

Or platypuses. Okay, so actually encountering a platypus isn't easy, but apparently the venom is amongst the most painful known to man. It won't kill you, but you'll want to die.
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Scion7

Haydn's time, lad. Not today.
And back then there might still have been a cryptid 20' long varanid still roaming about.
Death by Megalania, death by saltwater croc, death by stray boomerang .....   ???

Haydn chooses to play in the Rio Grande mud.
Saint-Saëns, who predicted to Charles Lecocq in 1901: 'That fellow Ravel seems to me to be destined for a serious future.'

Karl Henning

Quote from: orfeo on May 11, 2016, 08:02:43 AM
Okay, so actually encountering a platypus isn't easy

It's no picnic for the platypus, either.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Brian on May 11, 2016, 07:59:35 AM
Now if only we could send them Ted Cruz.

I'll get it funded on Kickstarter... :D

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Parsifal

Any scuttlebutt on "The Hobbit's" Haydn symphony cycle?

The last I heard it was cancelled, then Fey suffered traumatic brain injury in a domestic accident, then Hanssler announced the cycle was on again, but Fey is still incapacitated. Is there any hope for Fey's recovery?

George



Just got notice that this will arrive Tomorrow!!
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Florestan

Quote from: George on May 12, 2016, 03:16:09 AM


Just got notice that this will arrive Tomorrow!!

"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

George

"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Scion7

#10675
no that's whoever the eTailer cashier is who took the cc payment for that boxset!

Well, surprisingly, that 35-CD set goes for about $60 on Amazon.
Not bad.

Saint-Saëns, who predicted to Charles Lecocq in 1901: 'That fellow Ravel seems to me to be destined for a serious future.'

Florestan

Quote from: George on May 12, 2016, 03:43:28 AM
Gracias. Is that Sinopoli?

Looks like him all right, anyway.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: George on May 12, 2016, 03:16:09 AM


Just got notice that this will arrive Tomorrow!!

Excellent! I would be delighted to hear your impressions, not just of the music, but of the packaging, liner notes, whatever. I'm curious about how well they managed the repackaging.   :)

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Brian

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 12, 2016, 05:00:16 AM
Excellent! I would be delighted to hear your impressions, not just of the music, but of the packaging, liner notes, whatever. I'm curious about how well they managed the repackaging.   :)

8)
Me too! Of course, ImportCDs is offering it for $45, so I will be buying it no matter what George says, but hey, a guy can be curious  ;D

SonicMan46

#10679
Quote from: Brian on May 12, 2016, 06:40:55 AM
Me too! Of course, ImportCDs is offering it for $45, so I will be buying it no matter what George says, but hey, a guy can be curious  ;D

Just looked on Amazon USA - release date tomorrow priced @ $60, but no MP listings are yet available which likely will be as above.  In addition to the Fischer Haydn box, I do own 8 discs of Kuijken (Nos. 82-92 & 93-104) & just one Hogwood CD (Nos. 76-77); SO, looks like a buy for me, too!

Quoted below is a brief description from Amazon - Dave :)

Quote35 CD lift off-lid box set - extensive booklet featuring an index of symphonies, and a new note by Haydn expert David Threasher in English, French and German. Detailed tracklists on individual wallets

ADDENDUM:  Now I know that there has been a LOT of praise for Hogwood's efforts, but there are quite a few discs w/ Franz Bruggen (who I like), but what is the age of these recordings and the performances like?  Also, will be curious if any re-mastering was done?