Indian philosophy, repetition, minimalism and sexuality

[Guido]

That's a convenient premise for Sean to use, but he is wrong as usual.  Take me for example.  I get sex because of my charming ways and bedroom eyes; money is not relevant.

Why is it that only the guys who have trouble with females come up with these nutty ideas?

Well which woman is going to sleep with a tramp, however well washed he is? Apart from other homeless women perhaps...

[Don]

Well which woman is going to sleep with a tramp, however well washed he is? Apart from other homeless women perhaps...

That's quite an extreme example that proves nothing.  Also, I doubt the reluctance of women to sleep with homeless men is based on lack of money.

Obviously, there are millions of women who have not only gone to bed with low-income men but married them as well.  Most women aren't after men with money; they're after men who satisfy their emotional and physical needs.

[Cato]

That's quite an extreme example that proves nothing.  Also, I doubt the reluctance of women to sleep with homeless men is based on lack of money.

Obviously, there are millions of women who have not only gone to bed with low-income men but married them as well.  Most women aren't after men with money; they're after men who satisfy their emotional and physical needs.

Better make that their historico-sexico-musico-etc. needs!  (q.v.)

[PSmith08]

That's a convenient premise for Sean to use, but he is wrong as usual.  Take me for example.  I get sex because of my charming ways and bedroom eyes; money is not relevant.

I've found that Greta Garbo standoff sighs are fairly useful in a whole range of situations. It never hurts if your hair is Harlow gold, either.

Why is it that only the guys who have trouble with females come up with these nutty ideas?

Deferred compensation?

[Guido]

That's quite an extreme example that proves nothing.

Haha. You're a scream.

Interesting Sean - I appreciate the discussion of Minimalism and post modernism most - some interesting stuff there. I think one of the main reasons why your words meet such a critical and sneering reception here a lot of the time, is because it's often rather difficult to fathom what you are aiming at when you use alot of jargon - a lot of knowledge is assumed... But then I'm not really sure what audience you are writing for. Sometimes though, I think the language that you use rather obfuscates the meaning of the text rather than elucidates it.

Who know's why Dm ressurected those other threads... I haven't ever seen him make a serious post about music on these forums though - he apparently has nothing to express about music... I think it's pointless rising to it.

[lukeottevanger]

I'm with Guido - I'm sure there's quite a bit of interesting thought buried in these long tracts of your, Sean, and in fact a lot of the seemingly odd things you are concerned with are, coincidentally, very important to me too, musically at least; it would be interesting to discuss the similarities and differences between the conclusions we've come to, except that I'm never quite sure what conclusions you have come to! Because as Guido says, it's hard to know quite how to approach them, and even once that's sorted out, they hardly make for the easiest reading, both in their style in and in the assumptions they make about their reader. I'm aware that they are perhaps notes for yourself, rather than for others, but I'm sure you understand the point I'm making.

[jochanaan]

I agree.  In music, obsessive and extensive repetition sometimes creates a desired affect--but usually you need a theme worth repeating.

Sean, it might raise interest if you were to provide your thesis statement and conclusion.  If it was there, I didn't see it in the first three paragraphs, which were all I read before losing interest.

[12tone.]

Recent pics

How are you balancing the gun on your head like that!? 

[greg]

I'm with Guido - I'm sure there's quite a bit of interesting thought buried in these long tracts of your, Sean, and in fact a lot of the seemingly odd things you are concerned with are, coincidentally, very important to me too, musically at least; it would be interesting to discuss the similarities and differences between the conclusions we've come to, except that I'm never quite sure what conclusions you have come to! Because as Guido says, it's hard to know quite how to approach them, and even once that's sorted out, they hardly make for the easiest reading, both in their style in and in the assumptions they make about their reader. I'm aware that they are perhaps notes for yourself, rather than for others, but I'm sure you understand the point I'm making.

i'm almost certain it'd be something i'd be interested in reading as well, but it's just so LOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG
maybe tomorrow..... or next week

[12tone.]

Sean, it might raise interest if you were to provide your thesis statement and conclusion.  If it was there, I didn't see it in the first three paragraphs, which were all I read before losing interest.

Oh, it was there.  The fundamental loop process doesn't start till the 4th paragraph, but isn't heard in full till the 50th.  After that, it goes out of sync with the main idea.

[Bonehelm]

Are we supposed to read that?

[Sean]

Smith , we'll have to disagree; I'm interested in interconnections and that does make things less boxy and more diffuse in a sense. Nietzsche was an increasingly confused thinker though, revising his ideas book after book ('no' saying as Michael Tanner puts it) until he could see the level of aporia and went insane.

Guido, Luke, jochanaan I'm glad you liked some of it. The reason there isn't an intro or conclusion is that I believe the material is highly integrated and just can't be ordered in the usual intellectual or teleological way: it was hard enough selecting which original notes to include as many others I have make connections with other subject areas.

I'm also happy to write for myself without academic strictures and formulae- the holistic, holographic nature of Indian thought is thoroughly incommensurable with Western, but in a way I still find myself as shocked as I was at the start of my first degree that nobody knows anything about it- when it contains all the knowledge they seek. In fact academia is so discursive and paradigmatic I really feel that a university is no place for a thinking person: hippies on Indian streets or David Icke have more sense of meaning and reality.

Others- you bring sex up a lot more than I do: just chill you messed up bunch.

[karlhenning]

. . . I believe the material is highly integrated . . . .

Not as presented, no.  It's just a ramble.

Of course, there's always someone will buy a pitcher for a rammblin' man.

[karlhenning]

Others- you bring sex up a lot more than I do: just chill you messed up bunch.

That really is funny, considering (a) it's your thread, and (b) sexuality is one of the topics.

You could stand to acquire a sense of humor, Sean.  Heed your own advice, and just chill.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Not as presented, no.  It's just a ramble.

"Hard writing makes easy reading."
Wallace Stegner

[jochanaan]

Sean: Academic structures, phooey!  I just want to know what your point is.  In one clear sentence.

[Iconito]

Sean: Academic structures, phooey!  I just want to know what your point is.  In one clear sentence.

"I want a big bear hug!"

[M forever]

Why is it that only the guys who have trouble with females come up with these nutty ideas?

*Because* they have trouble with females.

[M forever]

That's pretty scary, you with those guns.

That's even scarier, you at the keyboard. You have the potential to do more damage with that weapon than with the guns.

You probably think you look really intellectual in that pic. But you don't. You look like you just farted but hope nobody noticed.

[Sean]

M, yes I thought about taking a gun off the wall and pointing it at you for that photo, but discretion prevailed- maybe next time. You're right about keyboards though, I mean, I'm going to be remembered in a thousand years and more for the brilliance of my prose, whereas others aren't.

I don't care for this aging thing though, 38 is definitely old enough- these photos are only going to get worse.

Hey I just had an interview for a job in S.Korea- maybe I can get a life away from cyberia altogether.